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Old 07-10-2003, 10:28 PM   #11
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*AHEM* It isn't really Paranoia if the terrorists are out to get you...and since they have said that they are.........

This in itself is a paranoid statement.

Now before I begin, let me state that when I use the term "US," I am not refering to every US citizen, but am directing my comments more towards the US government

I have long thought that the US government is deluded with paranoia. Not to get off topic here, but perhaps the US needs to drop a little of it's narcissitic attitude, and took a good long look at why "the terrorists are out to get them."
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Old 07-11-2003, 02:33 PM   #12
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perhaps the US needs to drop a little of it's narcissitic attitude, and took a good long look at why "the terrorists are out to get them."
Anyone have any ideas why? so far as i could see the reasons were religeous, and the US government couldnt solve them except by stopping many of the US citezens freedoms. doesnt seem a fair reason to attack someone, just because they dont follow your religeon.

(edit) sounded like i was saying i was a US citizen

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Old 07-11-2003, 07:33 PM   #13
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perhaps the US needs to drop a little of it's narcissitic attitude, and took a good long look at why "the terrorists are out to get them."
Anyone have any ideas why? so far as i could see the reasons were religeous, and the US government couldnt solve them except by stopping many of us citezens freedoms. doesnt seem a fair reason to attack someone, just because they dont follow your religeon. [/QUOTE]I may get slammed for saying so, but...oh well...as Dubya would say: Bring it on!

IMHO, the US has a narcissitic complex, everyone else should be like the US, everyone should worship the US because they have freedom, rights, a constitution. That's fine, but when it start's to crammed down everyone's throat that's when the problems start.

Many will say that the terrorists are afraid of freedom, but I say what about all the other countries that have freedom that are not terrorist targets?

I believe it's the "might makes right" stance.
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Old 07-11-2003, 08:21 PM   #14
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*AHEM* It isn't really Paranoia if the terrorists are out to get you...and since they have said that they are.........
sure, but to take a the approach of 'anyone of this ethnic group is a evil terroris' is strange to say the least. remenicent of naziism? by the tone of the posts the issue sounds localised to New York, but this kind of institutionalised racism isnt acceptable even on a small scale.

i admit the the story sounds one sided but 'The NYPD spokesman refused to comment on the case'. a denial or single sentance explanation would have sufficed.

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Naaah it isn't reminiscent of Naziism. It's called a normal human reaction.
We see it all the time. If 99 out of 100 of the robberies of a store are comitted by a specific ethnic group. It is perfectly reasonable for the store owner to be a bit jumpy when those ethnic types enter his store. Altho I will say it isn't required that he open up on them the instant they enter without first finding out if they intend to rob the place.

Just remember this guys story paints him as a reasonable innocent person who was picked on for no other reason that he looked middle eastern. He may not have been as calm, cool and collected as the story makes it appear. the NYPD isn't the only one who could have been called to get info....anyone see the journalist mention interviewing the bus driver?
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Old 07-16-2003, 01:26 PM   #15
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Well golly gee let's see....Now why would these animals attack us and not, say, Canada? Because Canada is run by left wing wackos who will bend over backward to accomodate these bastards. Wouldn't want to seem like meanies would they? And they hate us because we don't enslave our women and treat them like dogs. Because we don't have a government that brutalizes our people. Or maybe it's that we don't wish to force our way of life on those who do not want it.
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Old 07-16-2003, 01:37 PM   #16
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Or maybe it's that we don't wish to force our way of life on those who do not want it.
Or maybe it's that we do every day 24/7.
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Old 07-16-2003, 03:35 PM   #17
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Old 07-16-2003, 08:14 PM   #19
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Well golly gee let's see....Now why would these animals attack us and not, say, Canada? Because Canada is run by left wing wackos who will bend over backward to accomodate these bastards. Wouldn't want to seem like meanies would they? And they hate us because we don't enslave our women and treat them like dogs. Because we don't have a government that brutalizes our people. Or maybe it's that we don't wish to force our way of life on those who do not want it.
WTF are you talking about? Bend over backwards to accomodate terrorists? Okay so why not atttack France, Australia, Germany, Britain, Spain, Italy, Mexico...do I need to continue. Grab a globe and check out all the countries around the world that are free, that don't enslave women and that don't have governments that brutalize people. Why not one of those?

Let's see if I'm a terrorist looking to attack a free country...hmmm...I think I'll attack the country with the biggest, most technologicaly advanced military. Yep, sounds like a great idea.

"Or maybe it's that we don't wish to force our way of life on those who do not want it." Leave out the "don't" and you're pretty close to the real reason.
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America doesn't need to force its way of life onto anyone. What is really strange is that others are not embracing the American life of freedom on their own. Why would anyone willingly turn away from a positive thing? [img]graemlins/saywhat.gif[/img]
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