Fate and Destiny... do you believe in it? - Page 2

Avatar · 05-20-2002, 02:04 PM

Any one believe in the Matrix?

Hey Religious people and theologians.. a question: can god influence your destiny to an extent?

05-20-2002, 02:08 PM

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Originally posted by Avatar:
Good point LS, do you think fate and destiny can be avoided or controlled to a certain extent but not to the extent that the words become redundent.

I cannot be certain if they can be permanently averted. The situation may arise again that would allow my death to occur the same way, maybe. I don't know. However, it was certainly dedlayed at the very least, and only because I took active steps to do so

Sazerac · 05-20-2002, 02:13 PM

As far as "events" go, no, I don't think anything is "fated." I do believe fate per se exists, since it pretty well sets up the circumstances you are born with. A person who is born blind, or mentally deficient, or into a rich household, etc., did not exercise "free will" to enter into such an environment, so in that case, their circumstances are "fated". However, whatever they do with their circumstances and resources is their own free will.

It's like the Indian (eastern, not Native American) sages' proverb: "Fate is the hand you're dealt; Free Will is how you choose to play the hand."

-Sazerac

Ar-Cunin · 05-20-2002, 02:31 PM

No - I don't believe in fate

I believe in odds

Lavindathar · 05-20-2002, 05:43 PM

No, I don't believe in fate or destiny............... As Ar-Cunnin said, it is all down to luck, stats, odds, maths, science, whatever you want.

Well, ultimately, everything is down to maths.

05-20-2002, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by Lavindathar:

Well, ultimately, everything is down to maths.

pooey!

maybe you could stat up the odds of em deciding to shave or deciding what to have for dinner, but it is nto CAUSED by maths, but by human choice

05-20-2002, 02:04 PM	#11
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05-20-2002, 02:13 PM	#13
Sazerac Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Monroe, LA Age: 61 Posts: 7,387	As far as "events" go, no, I don't think anything is "fated." I do believe fate per se exists, since it pretty well sets up the circumstances you are born with. A person who is born blind, or mentally deficient, or into a rich household, etc., did not exercise "free will" to enter into such an environment, so in that case, their circumstances are "fated". However, whatever they do with their circumstances and resources is their own free will. It's like the Indian (eastern, not Native American) sages' proverb: "Fate is the hand you're dealt; Free Will is how you choose to play the hand." -Sazerac __________________ "And all my days are trances, and all my nightly dreams, Are where thy grey eye glances, and where thy footstep gleams, In what ethereal dances, by what eternal streams..."

05-20-2002, 02:31 PM	#14
Ar-Cunin Ra Join Date: August 14, 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Age: 54 Posts: 2,326	No - I don't believe in fate I believe in odds __________________ Life is a laugh <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[biglaugh]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/biglaugh.gif\" /> - and DEATH is the final joke <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[hehe]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/hehe.gif\" />

05-20-2002, 05:43 PM	#15
Lavindathar Harper Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Lancs, England Age: 40 Posts: 4,729	No, I don't believe in fate or destiny............... As Ar-Cunnin said, it is all down to luck, stats, odds, maths, science, whatever you want. Well, ultimately, everything is down to maths. __________________ =@

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