Legalize it? (not very minor-friendly) - Page 2

Sigmar · 02-15-2002, 03:58 PM

From what I've seen and heard the only reason some people smoke hasch is because it's illegal,,so if it was legalised it would probably lose some of it's appeal. I dont think people should worry about hacsh, but the more dangerous ones (LSD,Speed,etc) should definitly be banned and removed from countries as those are much more life threatning. (I don't do drugs btw)

J'aran · 02-15-2002, 03:58 PM

Campino - totally banning soft drugs doesn't help. Sure there are bad things about them, and I'm not promoting the use of them in any way, but people will always seek them out, legal or not. If you make them legal, or at least gedoogd (sorry, don't know a good English translation for this word, but most of you probably know it by now anyway) the bad effects on society can be monitored and controlled at least a small bit.

Sir ReGiN · 02-15-2002, 03:58 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Campino:
I can tell you many things why Holland is special,but none of them
are drugs-related [img]smile.gif[/img] I have a very clear opinion on this subject,
because i have seen all sorts of trouble and rubbish around me,
near my house and with my friends.Although i do know there are some good
things about hasjies,the bad side always comes first for me.

And i'm not sorry for disagreeing,i just do [img]smile.gif[/img]

But what are the bad sides?
And about the sorry thing, I read wrong..don't know how it happened thouh

J'aran · 02-15-2002, 04:01 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MILAMBER:
BTW, all of you who say it's no worse then cigarettes you are wrong. A joint that is exactly the size of a cigarette is 7-8 times worse for you.

Tose are some pretty precise figures. How exactly did they achieve that test-result?

Campino · 02-15-2002, 04:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by J'aran:
Campino - totally banning soft drugs doesn't help. Sure there are bad things about them, and I'm not promoting the use of them in any way, but people will always seek them out, legal or not. If you make them legal, or at least gedoogd (sorry, don't know a good English translation for this word, but most of you probably know it by now anyway) the bad effects on society can be monitored and controlled at least a small bit.

You're right J'aran about monitoring and controlling is easier if you "gedoog" softdrugs.I am speaking about things that happened in
my neighbourhood,and with my friends.That's why i am so against it,
because it influenced my life directly.

Sir ReGiN · 02-15-2002, 04:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MILAMBER:

BTW, all of you who say it's no worse then cigarettes you are wrong. A joint that is exactly the size of a cigarette is 7-8 times worse for you.

In what way?
It can't be the tar, because you have the exact same doses in a joint (if not less) so what then?
I've heard the exact opposite from many people, see

(my old chemistry teacher among others

)

Neb · 02-15-2002, 04:03 PM

Make it legal, and make alcohol and cigarettes illegal....

J'aran · 02-15-2002, 04:05 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Sir ReGiN:
And about the sorry thing, I read wrong..don't know how it happened thouh

[img]graemlins/bonghit.gif[/img] ??? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

DJG · 02-15-2002, 04:13 PM

I don't know about this one. It's like legalising hard drugs. I mean, the government will possibly be able to control the distribution more. But, it's like legalising wrecking your body. The government might also make profit, which might help.

There are advantages to legalising drugs overall, but I see the disadvantages of it to outweigh the advantages of it.

Anyway, about Marijuana. I don't really know anything about it, so I can't judge.

Campino · 02-15-2002, 04:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Sir ReGiN:

But what are the bad sides?
And about the sorry thing, I read wrong..don't know how it happened thouh

I'll tell you what i've seen in my neighbourhood.Near my house a lot of teens
get together to drink,tell stories,play loud music and to smoke,and
some of them smoke weed.The next day there are fags(cigarettes) and cigarette papers everywhere.It's a big mess.Sometimes on the staircase leading to my frontdoor as well.

Remember,i am speaking about things that actually happened in my life.
I've also lost a good friend of mine,who started with softdrugs, things went from bad to worse and i don't ever want that to happen again.So if someone wants to smoke hasj
be my guest,but you'll not be a friend of mine.

You might think i'm very harsh here,but now you know why.
Just too many bad experiences.

02-15-2002, 03:58 PM	#13
Sir ReGiN Gold Dragon Join Date: August 11, 2001 Location: The land of blonde virgins Age: 43 Posts: 2,563	quote: Originally posted by Campino: I can tell you many things why Holland is special,but none of them are drugs-related [img]smile.gif[/img] I have a very clear opinion on this subject, because i have seen all sorts of trouble and rubbish around me, near my house and with my friends.Although i do know there are some good things about hasjies,the bad side always comes first for me. And i'm not sorry for disagreeing,i just do [img]smile.gif[/img] But what are the bad sides? And about the sorry thing, I read wrong..don't know how it happened thouh

02-15-2002, 04:01 PM	#14
J'aran Mephistopheles Join Date: December 12, 2001 Location: Fryslân, The Netherlands Age: 45 Posts: 1,493	quote: Originally posted by MILAMBER: BTW, all of you who say it's no worse then cigarettes you are wrong. A joint that is exactly the size of a cigarette is 7-8 times worse for you. Tose are some pretty precise figures. How exactly did they achieve that test-result?

02-15-2002, 04:03 PM	#15
Campino Avatar Join Date: November 12, 2001 Location: Netherlands Age: 56 Posts: 522	quote: Originally posted by J'aran: Campino - totally banning soft drugs doesn't help. Sure there are bad things about them, and I'm not promoting the use of them in any way, but people will always seek them out, legal or not. If you make them legal, or at least gedoogd (sorry, don't know a good English translation for this word, but most of you probably know it by now anyway) the bad effects on society can be monitored and controlled at least a small bit. You're right J'aran about monitoring and controlling is easier if you "gedoog" softdrugs.I am speaking about things that happened in my neighbourhood,and with my friends.That's why i am so against it, because it influenced my life directly. __________________

02-15-2002, 04:03 PM	#16
Sir ReGiN Gold Dragon Join Date: August 11, 2001 Location: The land of blonde virgins Age: 43 Posts: 2,563	quote: Originally posted by MILAMBER: BTW, all of you who say it's no worse then cigarettes you are wrong. A joint that is exactly the size of a cigarette is 7-8 times worse for you. In what way? It can't be the tar, because you have the exact same doses in a joint (if not less) so what then? I've heard the exact opposite from many people, see (my old chemistry teacher among others ) __________________ Take a look at your Promised Land<br />Your deed is that gun in your hand

02-15-2002, 04:05 PM	#18
J'aran Mephistopheles Join Date: December 12, 2001 Location: Fryslân, The Netherlands Age: 45 Posts: 1,493	quote: Originally posted by Sir ReGiN: And about the sorry thing, I read wrong..don't know how it happened thouh [img]graemlins/bonghit.gif[/img] ??? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

02-15-2002, 03:58 PM	#11
Sigmar Unicorn Join Date: May 17, 2001 Location: N/a Posts: 4,222	From what I've seen and heard the only reason some people smoke hasch is because it's illegal,,so if it was legalised it would probably lose some of it's appeal. I dont think people should worry about hacsh, but the more dangerous ones (LSD,Speed,etc) should definitly be banned and removed from countries as those are much more life threatning. (I don't do drugs btw)

02-15-2002, 04:03 PM	#17
Neb Account deleted by Request Join Date: May 17, 2001 Location: . Age: 39 Posts: 8,802	Make it legal, and make alcohol and cigarettes illegal....

02-15-2002, 04:13 PM	#19
DJG Symbol of Cyric Join Date: March 16, 2001 Location: Manchester, England Age: 36 Posts: 1,109	I don't know about this one. It's like legalising hard drugs. I mean, the government will possibly be able to control the distribution more. But, it's like legalising wrecking your body. The government might also make profit, which might help. There are advantages to legalising drugs overall, but I see the disadvantages of it to outweigh the advantages of it. Anyway, about Marijuana. I don't really know anything about it, so I can't judge.

02-15-2002, 04:15 PM	#20
Campino Avatar Join Date: November 12, 2001 Location: Netherlands Age: 56 Posts: 522	quote: Originally posted by Sir ReGiN: But what are the bad sides? And about the sorry thing, I read wrong..don't know how it happened thouh I'll tell you what i've seen in my neighbourhood.Near my house a lot of teens get together to drink,tell stories,play loud music and to smoke,and some of them smoke weed.The next day there are fags(cigarettes) and cigarette papers everywhere.It's a big mess.Sometimes on the staircase leading to my frontdoor as well. Remember,i am speaking about things that actually happened in my life. I've also lost a good friend of mine,who started with softdrugs, things went from bad to worse and i don't ever want that to happen again.So if someone wants to smoke hasj be my guest,but you'll not be a friend of mine. You might think i'm very harsh here,but now you know why. Just too many bad experiences. __________________

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