Jan or Yoshi - who is the better thief? - Page 2

Simon · 05-25-2001, 08:35 AM

I was quite fond of Yosh as I found, since changing to Jan, that Yosh seened to detect traps a bit quicker than Jan, could just be me.

I too have not got the hang of backstabbing and would appreciate some pointers!

Cheers

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Grrrrrrrrr!!!

ShadowUK · 05-25-2001, 09:09 AM

Jan..........

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alexwc4 · 05-25-2001, 09:14 AM

Hayashi and Simon

Backstabbing Clinic 101

There are 3 components to the Backstab, everyone knows one, but the other two are most likely to be preventing your success.

1. Be Hidden/Invisible

2. Have a weapon which is able to backstab (blades up to longsword, shortsword is the classic)

3. (This is the most often Missed) Be BEHIND the victim. His facing is not trivial. They don't call it "attack from shadows" they call it BACK-stab.

Remember some opponents cannot be backstabbed. They may not have a back (jellies, oozes) or may be too big for you to reach it (dragons)

Hope that helps

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"Yet still, it turns." - The TiltaWhirl attendant at Six Flags

[This message has been edited by alexwc4 (edited 05-25-2001).]

bogart · 05-25-2001, 10:00 AM

I was never impressed much by Yoshimo, Jan is fine by me and seems to level
up a lot faster, plus his crossbow is more of what I needed anyway.

disregardedjello · 05-25-2001, 01:02 PM

jan is much cooler. he's funnier and he's got that whole turnip thing going for him and he makes neat stuff.

Shadow · 05-25-2001, 02:53 PM

Why'd the people at the place that makes BG2 give jan funny colors?

Check jan out with mage robe.

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The Black Killer

raging monk · 05-25-2001, 06:14 PM

yoshimo is the best thief in the game but jan is'nt a back stabbing lawyer (as the kid of liar liar say's it lol lol )
so i would have to go with neither !
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the monk has spoken now i shale return to my meditation until i speak again
peace out !

Willard · 06-24-2001, 04:18 PM

definately Yoshi( 95 lockpick, 100 find traps, 50 set traps, 80 hide in shadows, 75 move silently, backstab x4, 60 pickpocket, 87 hp )

06-24-2001, 06:47 PM

Really, it depends on your playing style and who else you have in your party. Although I've used both, I rely very heavily on scouting/backstabbing, so I prefer Yoshimo. It's true that Jan could cast an Invisibility spell, but he'll eventually run out of them - Yoshi can hide in shadows as often as he likes. Really, I'd be happy with either one.

Shadow · 06-24-2001, 06:49 PM

Jan doesnt need hide in shadows, he can cast invisibility so dont put any thing in hide in shadows until all others got a hundred.

EDIT-plus he can do extra thieving with knock. and his strength penalty can be fixed with the spell that gives str.
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The Black Killer

[This message has been edited by Shadow (edited 06-24-2001).]

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05-25-2001, 08:35 AM	#11
Simon The Magister Join Date: May 17, 2001 Location: London,England Posts: 103	I was quite fond of Yosh as I found, since changing to Jan, that Yosh seened to detect traps a bit quicker than Jan, could just be me. I too have not got the hang of backstabbing and would appreciate some pointers! Cheers ------------------ Grrrrrrrrr!!!

05-25-2001, 09:09 AM	#12
ShadowUK Avatar Join Date: March 10, 2001 Location: England, Worcester Posts: 524	Jan.......... ------------------

05-25-2001, 09:14 AM	#13
alexwc4 Dungeon Master Join Date: March 27, 2001 Location: Dallas, Texas U.S.A. Posts: 51	Hayashi and Simon Backstabbing Clinic 101 There are 3 components to the Backstab, everyone knows one, but the other two are most likely to be preventing your success. 1. Be Hidden/Invisible 2. Have a weapon which is able to backstab (blades up to longsword, shortsword is the classic) 3. (This is the most often Missed) Be BEHIND the victim. His facing is not trivial. They don't call it "attack from shadows" they call it BACK-stab. Remember some opponents cannot be backstabbed. They may not have a back (jellies, oozes) or may be too big for you to reach it (dragons) Hope that helps ------------------ "Yet still, it turns." - The TiltaWhirl attendant at Six Flags [This message has been edited by alexwc4 (edited 05-25-2001).]

05-25-2001, 10:00 AM	#14
bogart Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: May 16, 2001 Location: Staten Island, New York Posts: 39	I was never impressed much by Yoshimo, Jan is fine by me and seems to level up a lot faster, plus his crossbow is more of what I needed anyway.

05-25-2001, 01:02 PM	#15
disregardedjello Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: May 12, 2001 Location: canton, ohio, usa Posts: 15	jan is much cooler. he's funnier and he's got that whole turnip thing going for him and he makes neat stuff.

05-25-2001, 02:53 PM	#16
Shadow Manshoon Join Date: May 21, 2001 Location: USA Posts: 230	Why'd the people at the place that makes BG2 give jan funny colors? Check jan out with mage robe. ------------------ The Black Killer

05-25-2001, 06:14 PM	#17
raging monk Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: May 23, 2001 Location: castlemen,ontario,canada Posts: 14	yoshimo is the best thief in the game but jan is'nt a back stabbing lawyer (as the kid of liar liar say's it lol lol ) so i would have to go with neither ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the monk has spoken now i shale return to my meditation until i speak again peace out !

06-24-2001, 04:18 PM	#18
Willard Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: June 14, 2001 Location: Vermont Age: 33 Posts: 1,752	definately Yoshi( 95 lockpick, 100 find traps, 50 set traps, 80 hide in shadows, 75 move silently, backstab x4, 60 pickpocket, 87 hp )

06-24-2001, 06:47 PM	#19
Desuma_Malevois Guest Posts: n/a	Really, it depends on your playing style and who else you have in your party. Although I've used both, I rely very heavily on scouting/backstabbing, so I prefer Yoshimo. It's true that Jan could cast an Invisibility spell, but he'll eventually run out of them - Yoshi can hide in shadows as often as he likes. Really, I'd be happy with either one.

06-24-2001, 06:49 PM	#20
Shadow Manshoon Join Date: May 21, 2001 Location: USA Posts: 230	Jan doesnt need hide in shadows, he can cast invisibility so dont put any thing in hide in shadows until all others got a hundred. EDIT-plus he can do extra thieving with knock. and his strength penalty can be fixed with the spell that gives str. ------------------ The Black Killer [This message has been edited by Shadow (edited 06-24-2001).]

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