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suzanathene · 12-06-2001, 03:54 PM

Hey, Thanks for all the tips, the how to kill site was veeery useful. I've just re read these posts and realised I can't get the cloak as I am still in capter three, I'll try the shield though.

Lord Ludtke · 12-06-2001, 04:33 PM

The gauths can be taken out with a web and cloud kill combo, and then just shoot them to death on the near side of the bridge. Once they are gone keep cloud killing the place cause the beholders(the big ones) can't come across the bridge.

It might take a while and a couple of rests, but I remember not having enough money for that shield when I did the eyeless, so try it out.

Eldoran · 12-06-2001, 07:48 PM

In a recent game I played with a party of Me (Fighter/druid), Aeria, Minsc, Jan, and Keldorn...

First of all, I had Jan set his snares on the bridge, and sneak back. Then him and Aerie threw skull traps to either side of the bridge (across the chasm). Then once those were in place, I did some basic protections, haste etc. Jan then ran up to the bridge and started casting cloudkills. This awakened the beholders and they started moving forward and zapping Jan... He barely got out, but his mirror images protected him. The gauths are smaller and so came across the bridge, but they were killed by the snare and a couple shots from Minsc and Keldorn. Then the beholders will try to come towards you, but since they are too large for the bridge they will go to the nearest point they can, which happens to be either side of the bridge where the skull traps were. After all that they were very wounded, and I was able to finish them off no problem with some magic missles and arrow fire.

Another good spell to use is Holy Smite, as its radius is large enough to hit almost all the beholders and whatnot.

Oh, one last thing, becareful of the shadows just past the beholder ambush. They can cause problems for a worn out party.

Good luck.

LennonCook · 12-07-2001, 01:15 AM

lord_gabriel and suzanathene U r talking about different things yet using the same name... lord_gabriel means Garl. suzanathene already has that quest or she wouldnt be crossing a bridge, with a GAUTH after it. Easy waZy i found to kill this one: fireball just before it comes into visible range, go up to it, when ambushed by the shadows WAIT UNTIL THEY ARE CROUDED AROUND U. Cast sunray. Bi Bi shadows, and kill the gauth.

suzanathene · 12-07-2001, 12:00 PM

Thanks again, I've beaten the beholders and am in the lower reaches. I've even got the complete rod, Doesn,t seem to be an unseeing eye to kill though, hope it turns up soon, it's grim down here.

Lord Ludtke · 12-07-2001, 05:43 PM

I don't think the snare thing really works because these are flying, or at least floating creatures. I have seen gauths float clean over my snares and do nothing. So don't count on that tactic.

stilgar · 12-10-2001, 02:19 PM

i need help finding the rod in the temple... what's the deal there?

Irongrinder · 12-10-2001, 02:28 PM

Just one question, the cloak of mirroring: Did the gamedesigners weaken it a little with one of the patches or ToB? Because the first time I played the game, it reflected the spells back to the beholders, now it only absorps. Or is this a bug?

Eldoran · 12-10-2001, 08:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Lord Ludtke:
I don't think the snare thing really works because these are flying, or at least floating creatures. I have seen gauths float clean over my snares and do nothing. So don't count on that tactic.

[img]graemlins/doh.gif[/img]

Im getting easier to confuse day by day it seems... Oh well, I still like how my characters say "A snare has been set"... It sounds so devious.

Don't put me in the crazy bin! I swear I snared a floaty thing the other day! [img]graemlins/crazyeyes.gif[/img] I must go do some testing.

Dundee Slaytern · 12-10-2001, 11:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Irongrinder:
Just one question, the cloak of mirroring: Did the gamedesigners weaken it a little with one of the patches or ToB? Because the first time I played the game, it reflected the spells back to the beholders, now it only absorps. Or is this a bug?

It gets nerfed when you install ToB. It now becomes a permanent Spell Deflection, as opposed to a permanent Spell Turning.

12-06-2001, 04:33 PM	#12
Lord Ludtke Zhentarim Guard Join Date: November 21, 2001 Location: canada Posts: 319	The gauths can be taken out with a web and cloud kill combo, and then just shoot them to death on the near side of the bridge. Once they are gone keep cloud killing the place cause the beholders(the big ones) can't come across the bridge. It might take a while and a couple of rests, but I remember not having enough money for that shield when I did the eyeless, so try it out. __________________ Do not pray for an easy life.<br />Pray for the strength to endure <br />a tough one.<p>:warrior1:

12-07-2001, 05:43 PM	#16
Lord Ludtke Zhentarim Guard Join Date: November 21, 2001 Location: canada Posts: 319	I don't think the snare thing really works because these are flying, or at least floating creatures. I have seen gauths float clean over my snares and do nothing. So don't count on that tactic. __________________ Do not pray for an easy life.<br />Pray for the strength to endure <br />a tough one.<p>:warrior1:

12-10-2001, 08:30 PM	#19
Eldoran Dungeon Master Join Date: December 4, 2001 Location: Home Posts: 96	quote: Originally posted by Lord Ludtke: I don't think the snare thing really works because these are flying, or at least floating creatures. I have seen gauths float clean over my snares and do nothing. So don't count on that tactic. [img]graemlins/doh.gif[/img] Im getting easier to confuse day by day it seems... Oh well, I still like how my characters say "A snare has been set"... It sounds so devious. Don't put me in the crazy bin! I swear I snared a floaty thing the other day! [img]graemlins/crazyeyes.gif[/img] I must go do some testing.

12-10-2001, 11:30 PM	#20
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	quote: Originally posted by Irongrinder: Just one question, the cloak of mirroring: Did the gamedesigners weaken it a little with one of the patches or ToB? Because the first time I played the game, it reflected the spells back to the beholders, now it only absorps. Or is this a bug? It gets nerfed when you install ToB. It now becomes a permanent Spell Deflection, as opposed to a permanent Spell Turning.

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12-06-2001, 03:54 PM	#11
suzanathene Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: December 5, 2001 Location: uk Posts: 17	Hey, Thanks for all the tips, the how to kill site was veeery useful. I've just re read these posts and realised I can't get the cloak as I am still in capter three, I'll try the shield though.

12-06-2001, 07:48 PM	#13
Eldoran Dungeon Master Join Date: December 4, 2001 Location: Home Posts: 96	In a recent game I played with a party of Me (Fighter/druid), Aeria, Minsc, Jan, and Keldorn... First of all, I had Jan set his snares on the bridge, and sneak back. Then him and Aerie threw skull traps to either side of the bridge (across the chasm). Then once those were in place, I did some basic protections, haste etc. Jan then ran up to the bridge and started casting cloudkills. This awakened the beholders and they started moving forward and zapping Jan... He barely got out, but his mirror images protected him. The gauths are smaller and so came across the bridge, but they were killed by the snare and a couple shots from Minsc and Keldorn. Then the beholders will try to come towards you, but since they are too large for the bridge they will go to the nearest point they can, which happens to be either side of the bridge where the skull traps were. After all that they were very wounded, and I was able to finish them off no problem with some magic missles and arrow fire. Another good spell to use is Holy Smite, as its radius is large enough to hit almost all the beholders and whatnot. Oh, one last thing, becareful of the shadows just past the beholder ambush. They can cause problems for a worn out party. Good luck.

12-07-2001, 01:15 AM	#14
LennonCook Jack Burton Join Date: November 10, 2001 Location: Bathurst & Orange, in constant flux Age: 38 Posts: 5,452	lord_gabriel and suzanathene U r talking about different things yet using the same name... lord_gabriel means Garl. suzanathene already has that quest or she wouldnt be crossing a bridge, with a GAUTH after it. Easy waZy i found to kill this one: fireball just before it comes into visible range, go up to it, when ambushed by the shadows WAIT UNTIL THEY ARE CROUDED AROUND U. Cast sunray. Bi Bi shadows, and kill the gauth.

12-07-2001, 12:00 PM	#15
suzanathene Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: December 5, 2001 Location: uk Posts: 17	Thanks again, I've beaten the beholders and am in the lower reaches. I've even got the complete rod, Doesn,t seem to be an unseeing eye to kill though, hope it turns up soon, it's grim down here.

12-10-2001, 02:19 PM	#17
stilgar Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: November 26, 2001 Location: u.s.a. Posts: 13	i need help finding the rod in the temple... what's the deal there?

12-10-2001, 02:28 PM	#18
Irongrinder Avatar Join Date: June 8, 2001 Location: The forest Posts: 526	Just one question, the cloak of mirroring: Did the gamedesigners weaken it a little with one of the patches or ToB? Because the first time I played the game, it reflected the spells back to the beholders, now it only absorps. Or is this a bug?

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