Bishops vs. Alchemist.

Durin I think you have to look the particular spell up to see which type of spell it is. Even though Alchemist may be able to do the heal wounds, that does not make it an alchemy spell, that is actually a divine spell and so cannot be cast while silenced even by an alchemist, you will see it highlighted as orange in your spell selection when you are silenced.

[Warhammer]

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Originally posted by Durin the Deathless:


What about spells that are *alchemy* spells as well as another school? Like Heal (or is it Cure?) Wounds for example: it falls under the schools of Priest, Alchemist and Psionic.

Obviously Alchemists, Rangers, Ninjas and Bishops could cast Heal Wounds while silenced. But can Priests, Psionics, Lords, etc.?

Can a Alchemist who class changes to a Priest cast Heal Wounds when silenced?

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As far as the Lord and Priest are concerned Heal Wounds is a Divinity spell.

If a spell (Heal Wounds) is in many spellbooks (Alchemy, Divine and Psionic), it is considered to belong to the highest of those. Since the Lord is likely to have his divinity higher than his alchemy, the spell will be affected by silence.

Thus, a silenced Alchemist -> Priest will be able to cast "Heal Wounds" when silenced as long as his Alchemy is higher than Divinitey. And a Bishop will not be able to cast "Heal Wounds" if his Psionics is higher than alchemy.
Just my theory, I do actually have a bishop that matches that description I will test it next time he will become silenced.

[Brak]

Hello,

Thanks for the numerous replies. I started a Bishop last night specilaizing in Psionics and Alchemy. He really does develop a lot slower that a true specialist. Spells fizzle almost 50 percent of the time. And even though I have only been pumping Psi & Alch at level up I have been practicing the few spells he has constantly (he is pretty much always out of mana) to raise the realm points. But I have noticed that this practicing also raises the other specialties (wizardry & divinity). This might sound cool...they are going up even though I have never put a point in them...but in the end those points that come as a result of practicing are just being spread out very thin. So try as I might to get him to specialize in two schools, his constant practicing ends up speading him out anyway. Hmm, he just seems to really be struggling. But I imagine he will come up to speed eventually and I shoudn't worry about his slow progression in the early game.

Someone implied that if a Bishop had a high enough alchemy skill, they could do recipes too...is this true? Well then my bishop will most certainly be cooking things up way before my ranger!

Thanks again...what a great board.

[Brak]

Oh, and BTW Warhammer had some interesting thories as to what school a spell belongs to when it belongs to multiple schools. This to detimine whether the spell can be silenced or not. I'd be interested to hear anyone else's input on that sort of theory.

[KraGorn]

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Originally posted by Warhammer:
Some more clarifications / confirmations

The bishop CAN dispel undead

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Originally posted by MagiK:
Umm someone said Bishops can't dispell undead?? I guess mine are just exceptional then. Here are my observations.

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Presumably aimed at me, so READ WHAT I SAID!

I clearly stated that Bishops DISPEL undead but that Priests TURN undead ... clearly Sir-Tech think they're different because they called them different things and since TURN undead is a Priest's special skill a Bishop CAN'T TURN UNDEAD!

[ 01-17-2002: Message edited by: KraGorn ]

[ 01-17-2002: Message edited by: KraGorn ]