Hand of Bane alignment shift - Page 2

robertthebard · 09-14-2006, 08:37 AM

Makes you wonder who Jahiera really followed, eh...and the plot thickens even more...

javan · 09-14-2006, 05:18 PM

OK, so which quests/other actions change your alignment in Undermountain?

The ones I have found so far…

Unless Ziroc has fixed the bug, attacking the bandits who ambush you on level 2 moves your alignment towards evil.
Talking nicely to Savros' widow gives you good points; talking nasty give you evil points (or so I’ve heard).
Returning the Hand of Bane moves your alignment towards True Neutral
There is a quest on level 13 to retrieve an Evil artifact for a Drow lady. It gives you evil points when you complete this quest.

What alignment-changing quests/actions have I missed? [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img]

T-D-C · 09-14-2006, 08:02 PM

I think thats all of them.

I would love to see more alignment changing quests incorporated into EFU

Unglaublich Verwustung · 09-15-2006, 03:59 AM

Does the Xanther stash in lvl 3 change your alignment?

Cloudbringer · 09-15-2006, 10:54 AM

I don't recall it doing so Unglaublich. I think I was expecting it to do something to my alignment but don't remember seeing any note that it did.

[ 09-15-2006, 10:54 AM: Message edited by: Cloudbringer ]

robertthebard · 09-15-2006, 12:56 PM

It doesn't.

Cloudbringer · 09-15-2006, 01:53 PM

Thanks, Robert! *gleefully rubs hands together and makes plans to take her rogue in to check out the wagons....*

robertthebard · 09-16-2006, 07:51 AM

I completed the Hand of Bane with True Neutral rogue, and took no alignment hits at all...

Unglaublich Verwustung · 09-17-2006, 11:52 AM

Now you're just showing off

Have to admit that I've not really paid attention to alignment shifts before, seems that although I've played NWN for 3 or 4 years now I've significantly failed to grasp, until joining this forum, just what you can get out of it and some of the subtleties of game-play. Ho hum, got a lot to learn from you guys.
All I can think is that it shows the main difference between online team-play and solo on your own machine. Let the learning begin...

Greything · 09-23-2006, 05:46 PM

I finally managed to do the Hand of Bane quest again and I have to admit I was wrong. My memory was definitely at fault.

My character was Lawful Neutral and the moment I handed over the hand (there has to be a better way to say that) I took 5 point hits towards Good and Chaotic.

Apologies to Javan. And we may have to revise any theory about moving in the direction of True Neutral.

09-14-2006, 08:37 AM	#11
robertthebard Xanathar Thieves Guild Join Date: March 17, 2001 Location: Wichita, KS USA Age: 62 Posts: 4,537	Makes you wonder who Jahiera really followed, eh...and the plot thickens even more... __________________ To those we have lost; May your spirits fly free. Interesting read, one of my blogs.

09-14-2006, 05:18 PM	#12
javan Zhentarim Guard Join Date: September 5, 2003 Location: Canada Age: 66 Posts: 396	OK, so which quests/other actions change your alignment in Undermountain? The ones I have found so far… Unless Ziroc has fixed the bug, attacking the bandits who ambush you on level 2 moves your alignment towards evil. Talking nicely to Savros' widow gives you good points; talking nasty give you evil points (or so I’ve heard). Returning the Hand of Bane moves your alignment towards True Neutral There is a quest on level 13 to retrieve an Evil artifact for a Drow lady. It gives you evil points when you complete this quest. What alignment-changing quests/actions have I missed? [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img] __________________ When the going gets tough, the bard goes drinking- Bard's Tale

09-14-2006, 08:02 PM	#13
T-D-C Ironworks Moderator Join Date: October 26, 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 44 Posts: 4,416	I think thats all of them. I would love to see more alignment changing quests incorporated into EFU __________________

09-15-2006, 03:59 AM	#14
Unglaublich Verwustung Silver Dragon Join Date: August 2, 2006 Location: i ngach aon áit (but mostly Western Europe) Age: 57 Posts: 1,619	Does the Xanther stash in lvl 3 change your alignment? __________________ Make a decision, even if it's wrong, and remember.... ...it's never too early for a salad.

09-15-2006, 10:54 AM	#15
Cloudbringer Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Upstate NY USA Posts: 19,737	I don't recall it doing so Unglaublich. I think I was expecting it to do something to my alignment but don't remember seeing any note that it did. [ 09-15-2006, 10:54 AM: Message edited by: Cloudbringer ] __________________ "Don't take life for granted." Animal (may he rest in peace)

09-15-2006, 12:56 PM	#16
robertthebard Xanathar Thieves Guild Join Date: March 17, 2001 Location: Wichita, KS USA Age: 62 Posts: 4,537	It doesn't. __________________ To those we have lost; May your spirits fly free. Interesting read, one of my blogs.

09-15-2006, 01:53 PM	#17
Cloudbringer Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Upstate NY USA Posts: 19,737	Thanks, Robert! gleefully rubs hands together and makes plans to take her rogue in to check out the wagons.... __________________ "Don't take life for granted." Animal (may he rest in peace)

09-16-2006, 07:51 AM	#18
robertthebard Xanathar Thieves Guild Join Date: March 17, 2001 Location: Wichita, KS USA Age: 62 Posts: 4,537	I completed the Hand of Bane with True Neutral rogue, and took no alignment hits at all... __________________ To those we have lost; May your spirits fly free. Interesting read, one of my blogs.

09-17-2006, 11:52 AM	#19
Unglaublich Verwustung Silver Dragon Join Date: August 2, 2006 Location: i ngach aon áit (but mostly Western Europe) Age: 57 Posts: 1,619	Now you're just showing off Have to admit that I've not really paid attention to alignment shifts before, seems that although I've played NWN for 3 or 4 years now I've significantly failed to grasp, until joining this forum, just what you can get out of it and some of the subtleties of game-play. Ho hum, got a lot to learn from you guys. All I can think is that it shows the main difference between online team-play and solo on your own machine. Let the learning begin... __________________ Make a decision, even if it's wrong, and remember.... ...it's never too early for a salad.

09-23-2006, 05:46 PM	#20
Greything Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: June 25, 2004 Location: UK Posts: 633	I finally managed to do the Hand of Bane quest again and I have to admit I was wrong. My memory was definitely at fault. My character was Lawful Neutral and the moment I handed over the hand (there has to be a better way to say that) I took 5 point hits towards Good and Chaotic. Apologies to Javan. And we may have to revise any theory about moving in the direction of True Neutral.

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