Algernon (spoilers) - Page 2

Firestormalpha · 04-24-2003, 10:28 PM

Oh oh oh. . . . I just got a sinister idea, not sure if it would work though.
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When fighting Aec'Latec (I think that's how it's spelled; it's been awhile), use the cloak on his disciples. Dunno if it would work, but hey its worth a try, no? He'd have to kill his own followers, and leave no opening for a reincarnation. (would they leave such a large loop-hole in the game?)

SixOfSpades · 04-25-2003, 01:04 AM

The Cloak isn't in BG2 at all, it was so overpowered. You can still hack it in, I believe, but that's the only way. And, as far as I know, no MOD has been written that brings it back.

I don't know about you, Firestormalpha, but when I'm down in that room I've got slightly better things to do than Charm cultists. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Flaming Fist Enforcer · 04-25-2003, 03:01 AM

OK, another question: Is there any way of getting the cloak other then stealing it from Algernon?

InsaneBane · 04-25-2003, 04:19 AM

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Originally posted by Flaming Fist Enforcer:
OK, another question: Is there any way of getting the cloak other then stealing it from Algernon?

You can kill Algernon to get it, but then you will loose reputation.

I think the programmers wanted us to do the following:
1) Talk to Pheirkas to get knowledge of the cloak.
2) Find Algernon and steal it.
3) Go back to Pheirkas with the cloak.
4) Drop your jaw [img]graemlins/jawdrop.gif[/img] when you see the reward.
5) Reload the game and keep the cloak

[img]graemlins/greenbounce.gif[/img]
Insane

[ 04-25-2003, 04:21 AM: Message edited by: InsaneBane ]

Midget Gems · 04-25-2003, 01:06 PM

Yes Firestormalpha, you can Charm the Cultists and get them to help you, I remember doing it and found an old posting back in July 2002 where I explained this. At the time I was using a small party (numerically) and needed a little help, so I used Dire Charm, but I am sure the Cloak works just as well. As you say it's a nice role-playing touch to turn them against their Master.

My other comment about Algenon's Cloak concerns it's success rate, which I found to be very high. On the few occasions that the target resisted, I am fairly sure I got a message " Save versus Breath Weapon" which is totally weird but may explain why it is hard to save against. Can anyone confirm this?

madjim · 04-25-2003, 01:54 PM

It does show as save vs breath weapon from what I remember. As far as the cloak not being in Bg2 - that may be the case - but I may have brought it in on a characters back.

To get the cloak - you can use a hex editor and change something into the cloak or gate keeper.

SixOfSpades · 04-25-2003, 01:56 PM

Yep, the Cloak does indeed force a Save vs. Breath Weapon, which is usually garanteed to be the a target creature's worst Save. About the only people who could make their Save more than once were high-level Warriors, such as Flaming Fist.

Flaming Fist Enforcer · 04-26-2003, 05:09 AM

Well, thx for the compliment, SoS. Although I still have to make 2550 posts to become 20th lvl warrior, I already have high saving throws

. You can't charm me easily...

04-24-2003, 10:28 PM	#11
Firestormalpha Knight of the Rose Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Coral Springs, Fl USA Age: 41 Posts: 4,454	Oh oh oh. . . . I just got a sinister idea, not sure if it would work though. (Spoiler) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - When fighting Aec'Latec (I think that's how it's spelled; it's been awhile), use the cloak on his disciples. Dunno if it would work, but hey its worth a try, no? He'd have to kill his own followers, and leave no opening for a reincarnation. (would they leave such a large loop-hole in the game?) __________________ "When you start with a presupposition, it's hard to arrive at any other conclusion." "We are never to judge a philosophy by its abuse." - Augustine "If you're wondering if God has a sense of humor, consider the platypus." http://www.greaterthings.cbglades.com

04-25-2003, 01:04 AM	#12
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 48 Posts: 6,901	The Cloak isn't in BG2 at all, it was so overpowered. You can still hack it in, I believe, but that's the only way. And, as far as I know, no MOD has been written that brings it back. I don't know about you, Firestormalpha, but when I'm down in that room I've got slightly better things to do than Charm cultists. [img]tongue.gif[/img] __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

04-25-2003, 03:01 AM	#13
Flaming Fist Enforcer Drow Warrior Join Date: January 25, 2003 Location: Croatia Age: 38 Posts: 261	OK, another question: Is there any way of getting the cloak other then stealing it from Algernon? __________________ [url]\"http://imageshack.us\" target=\"_blank\"> [img]\"http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9278/sig6fk.png\" alt=\" - \" /></a>

04-25-2003, 01:06 PM	#15
Midget Gems Avatar Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: London, England Age: 35 Posts: 568	Yes Firestormalpha, you can Charm the Cultists and get them to help you, I remember doing it and found an old posting back in July 2002 where I explained this. At the time I was using a small party (numerically) and needed a little help, so I used Dire Charm, but I am sure the Cloak works just as well. As you say it's a nice role-playing touch to turn them against their Master. My other comment about Algenon's Cloak concerns it's success rate, which I found to be very high. On the few occasions that the target resisted, I am fairly sure I got a message " Save versus Breath Weapon" which is totally weird but may explain why it is hard to save against. Can anyone confirm this? __________________ Midget Gems - Heroes in their own lunch time and creator of the Suicidal Gnomes.

04-25-2003, 01:56 PM	#17
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 48 Posts: 6,901	Yep, the Cloak does indeed force a Save vs. Breath Weapon, which is usually garanteed to be the a target creature's worst Save. About the only people who could make their Save more than once were high-level Warriors, such as Flaming Fist. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

04-25-2003, 01:54 PM	#16
madjim The Magister Join Date: October 9, 2001 Location: Maryland - The Old Line State Posts: 123	It does show as save vs breath weapon from what I remember. As far as the cloak not being in Bg2 - that may be the case - but I may have brought it in on a characters back. To get the cloak - you can use a hex editor and change something into the cloak or gate keeper.

04-26-2003, 05:09 AM	#18
Flaming Fist Enforcer Drow Warrior Join Date: January 25, 2003 Location: Croatia Age: 38 Posts: 261	Well, thx for the compliment, SoS. Although I still have to make 2550 posts to become 20th lvl warrior, I already have high saving throws . You can't charm me easily... __________________ [url]\"http://imageshack.us\" target=\"_blank\"> [img]\"http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9278/sig6fk.png\" alt=\" - \" /></a>

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