When to do Watcher's Keep?

[Illumina Drathiran'ar]

Originally posted by Link: Sarevok is a great NPC. The only reason not to take him would be roleplaying. Would a good aligned PC allow himself to trust someone of the likes of Sarevok?

Well... A good PC believes in the potential good of all, yes? Family, trust, forgiveness... A neutral PC, on the other hand, would have a harder time justifying it, I think.

[krunchyfrogg]

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Wow, my "believing in redemption" of Sarevok paid off! I just got him to become Good, and I'm not even done with the Keep yet!
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[Kyrvias]

nice. I see that it *is* justifiable to have Sarevok in your party.

[Neo the Warrior Cat]

One can raid the first level of the Keep of a few minor treasures shortly after starting SoA, while avoiding any true threats.

I do that everytime, since the keep has a few minor magic baubles lying about on the first level that don't have vampiric mists guarding them. (Most important of these to certain party members are a certain pair of bracers....)

[Davros]

Well I am replaying SoA. I never finished ToB and in WK I had never before been past the Chromatic Demon. I have an SoA Chapter 3 party, and I decided to take on Watchers Keep just before leaving for Spellhold.

Has been a tad tough [img]smile.gif[/img] , but I am through to some Cambion near the end of Level 3 that wants me to play some game. He has the last gem I need but I keep getting beat up so I just popped in to search for some clues. Haven't decided yet whether the best form of defence is attack or not. It is really a pisser carrying around all this stuff that could be upgraded by Cespanar but not by Cromwell - I bet those White Dragon scales I just found make some wicked armour (sigh)

[Davros]

Well I got through level 3 [img]smile.gif[/img] - but died 20 secs into level 4 (sigh) so I think that it is time to head back to the Docks and see if I have levelled enough to play tag with Kangy or the Twisted Rune before going to spellhold . I got maybe 2-2.5 levels on each character while down the keep, so that was pretty cool.

[ElfBane]

You really need to be able to beat Lich's before you try the deeper levels of WK. If you can't beat Lich's yet,, then don't go past L2 of WK.

[Davros]

Originally posted by ElfBane: You really need to be able to beat Lich's before you try the deeper levels of WK. If you can't beat Lich's yet,, then don't go past L2 of WK.

Don't worry - I am sure I should have Kanggy's measure - despite having no access to Freedom scrolls - just haven't tried yet. I am through level 3 now, and I thought that was easier than battling Kanggy last time. And I have enough in the way of weapons to hurt him now. I did laugh at someones suggestion for getting past the Demon Wraith just before the last guy that gambles with you. Gate in a Deva [img]smile.gif[/img] (like I can do that with a Chapter 3 SoA party - riiiiiiiiiight [img]smile.gif[/img] )

[Neo the Warrior Cat]

Yes, the white dragon scales make killer armor.

Armor that is wearable by thieves too

Oh, and ElfBane, any gonzo can beat a lich if they walk up, let him get his protection from magical weapons on, quickly run away and out of sight (too easy, they move so slow) and wait for that to run out, then walk back up and sling azuredge at them until they fail their save.

Oh, and Davros, I hope for your sake that you did not install the Tactics mod. The Improved Twisted Rune will eat you alive. Finally beat those bastards, thanks to a good spell trigger of three Spell-50ed fireballs *cast by a level 16 or 17 sorceress* that took out the beholder and two assassins and hurt the fighter guy severely. 3 people died in this, but once I got down to the last person *the staff holder, who actually uses it this time* I got my cleric to resurrect my sorceress and then had her use the remaining two charges in my rod of resurrection to raise the other two, then sent Layene the staff holder a nice thank you bomb *fireball* Killed her, and now I hold the Staff of the Magi in CHARNAME's hands. By golly I hate that Horrid wilting casting lich ><

[Davros]

Well I haven;t got the tactics mod installed, but my level 3 party romped through there very easily. Only 1 death - Jahiera who I thought was tucked away nicely but instead did a swan dive into a stray beholder blast and the stun wouldn;t dispel fast enough so I could shift her out of the Horrid Wilting field.

Into the Underdark now - only guy that gave me a mild amount of trouble was that mage that you free from imprisonment. I didn't go in buffed and summoned and he imprisoned 2 - the only people that could cast freedom or use a scroll - sigh. Once back on the surface I am going to head back to WK and start level 4