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Old 12-22-2004, 03:31 PM   #11
Faceman
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hihi *i get to lecture Six, i get to lecture Six* [img]tongue.gif[/img]

BGtutu is a very small prog (it was less than 1MB in the early stages IIRC) that converts BG2 into BG1
BGT is the BIG mod that replaces the TutorialButton with Baldur's Gate 1 and thus is a lot more convenient (especially if you have parallel games running) and also brings more continuity into the trilogy. Also it allows you to take your BG1 NPCs into BG2 (although this has always been kinda buggy, e.g. when Xzar meets Xzar )
and adds some new items (including a lesser bag of holding, a certain overpowered cloak and an overpowered helmet that can be taken to BG2). This is paid for by a much larger size (about a CD in the last distribution 1GB+ in the first )

To answer the persistent question above:
If one uses BGTutu
1. there is no possibility (save a second BG2 installation) to play BG2 concurrently
2. you have to export/import your PC to get him/her from BG1 to BG2
3. you cannot take NPCs or items (other than the infamous pantaloons and some other unique goodies) from BG1 to BG2
4. you have to run the uninstall prog for Tutu or make a clean new install to get your BG2 back (unless you have a second BG2 install of course)

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Old 12-22-2004, 05:44 PM   #12
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Wait a minute--what's this about uninstalling? It was my understanding (watch me shoot my mouth off about something I know next to nothing about) BGTuTu stood for BGTutorial
Nope. Try saying BG1Tutu out loud, and the meaning's more evident. [img]smile.gif[/img]

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To me, this more sense, not to mention being a heck of a lot more convenient, than uninstalling or having separate copies of BG2. If it isn't done this way, why isn't it?
It'd look grossly unprofessional to have the game started via the tutorial button. On top of that, there are a number of technical difficulties to implement it this way, which BGT works around awkwardly. Finally, it was the team's decision that it was better to have two games that stood alone well than hack them together like BGT did and end up with a disjointed story. BGT's handling of the transition is... not amazing, and the plot flaws such as the PC's mother changing roles become all the more apparent when playing both games through at once.
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Old 12-22-2004, 06:10 PM   #13
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Also as I understand it BGT forces you to play TotSC after you've finished the BG1 storyline, you can't just go there you have to run though all the game to get to it..

Tutu let's you play the TotSC missions when you like pretty much.

BGT also estimates (correct me if I'm wrong) over and hour to install and unpack on an average system..

Tutu generates a transition save when you uninstall as I recall, though I could be wrong and it might just be a diffrent bit..

I've played with Tutu a few times, though I hit a show stopper that killed all my saves so be a wary.
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Old 12-22-2004, 07:16 PM   #14
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TUTU is the mod that lets you play as BG2 characters (kensai, monk, etc) in BG1, and is accesed in the above method of the tutorial making you play through the begining of BG1. I think.

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Old 12-22-2004, 07:33 PM   #15
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...no, Tutu is NOT started via the tutorial. It replaces BG2, so starting a new game places you in Candlekeep. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 12-22-2004, 07:40 PM   #16
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Maybe some big letter's, dunno the code for making somthing big but it'd be an idea.. Maybe it'd get read then, but then they is only 'uman..


Tutu is a play on the sound of words, say the word To then say the word two..

So basicaly it's BG to BG two, or BGtutu

Get it?

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Old 12-23-2004, 07:28 PM   #17
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Its also a type of dress.
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Old 12-23-2004, 07:33 PM   #18
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Ok, I have installed it all:

BG1TuTu v4
BG1TuTu Fixpack v5
BG1 Patch
BG2 Patch

But whenever I try to advance to a different area, from the Lion's Way to either The Friendly Arm Inn, Larswood or Beregost, when it is loading it exits the game and crashes. Does anyone know how to fix it? If not it doesnt matter, its not imperative I play BG1 again.

Thanks alot

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Old 12-23-2004, 07:34 PM   #19
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Well, after playing my F/M/T through Tutu and getting bored very early in SoA (too powerful) I've just started the game again with a... Anti-Paladin.

*sighs* after 2 days of game time, he is a level 5 fighter. Is this going to be too easy? O_o
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Old 12-24-2004, 01:04 AM   #20
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tell me, what is an anti-paladin? or is it some silly unofficial class like that generic archer...
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