Defeating Kuroisan solo blade? - Page 2

Devv · 09-19-2003, 07:32 PM

I remember stealing a tensers scroll from somebody in Waukeens promenade...probabally the scroll seller upstairs in the adventure mart.

Assassin · 09-19-2003, 09:27 PM

Spell Immunity: Conjuration- for immunity to the Acidic Backlash
Improved Haste + Offensive Spin + Boots of Speed- to help deal out damage as well as to outrun him if necessary
Breach- to remove his PfMW after waiting out 14 rounds for his SIs to run out
Remove Magic- to remove his Mirror Images/Stoneskins
Stoneskin- to help live long enough to cast Breach
Mirror Image- to help live long enough to cast Breach as well as to have a buffer against Death Fog
PfMW- when you finally attack him
Fire Shields- to help create a chain of Acidic Backlashes in melee against him after he's been Breached; you'll be immune to the Acidic Backlash (might require a couple of SIs), but he won't be immune to both FSs
Spell Immunity: Abjuration- to take his Remove MAgic and Breach out of the picture

Order of operation:

Buff with Mirror Image, Improved Haste, Offensive Spin, and SI: Abjuration during the fight. The SI is most likely the most important of the lot, followed by Improved Haste, then Offensive Spin. You should have Stoneskin on originally. Mirror Image comes next. Dodge the Death Fogs. Buy a Spell Sequencer (from Bernard if necessary), and load it up with a Stoneskin/Mirror Image/Slow + the 2 Fireshields). It would also be helpful to get a wand of Spell Striking from WK so that you can save some level 5 slots.

You try to last out his SIs. Then, re-cast SI: Abjuration, SI: Conjuration, Breach, and Remove Magic as fast as possible. After the Remove Magic, cast PfMW, then attack him. Cast the Spell Sequencer ASAP. He should die very shortly afterwards. If you're still having trouble, then after the SI, cast Slow to get rid of the Haste, then the Spell Sequencer one should Slow him for real.

ADD] If you're having a lot of trouble hitting him, then buy one of the potions that increase your strength from Roger the Fence. If after that, you're still having trouble, after the whole long list of debuff'ing, etc., try adding in Tenser's Transformation.

[ 09-19-2003, 10:15 PM: Message edited by: Assassin ]

Dundee Slaytern · 09-20-2003, 12:19 AM

Breach ignores Spell Immunity:Abjuration, at least according to the Spell Reference Site.

You just need a few spells.

Protection from Acid or Spell Immunity:Conjuration
Fireshield Red and/or Fireshield Blue
An ability to eat a lot of cheese.

After casting these spells, walk straight up to Kurio and tell him face to face, "Hit me with your best shot".

Consider drinking an Oil of Speed beforehand so that you can run and cast at a safe distance away or heck, just cast PfMagical Weapons. If Kurio has PfFire and Cold, cast Breach on him.

The game will then proceed to lag as Kurio fries and freezes while your character giggles from the Acidic Backlash.

People who claim GWW is better than Offensive Spin fail to factor in the fact that OSpin grants maximum damage to all hits, and it lasts for 2 rounds too. Blades have access to the IBSong too, and can fight under its' influence even when soloing.

Also remember... play the Bard as it is, not what you want it to be. Bards only become powerful if the person stops thinking of them as F/Ms and starts using them as Bards. This is a common mistake made by many, and applies to all classes. The Bard is to the F/M as a Sorcerer is to a Mage.

[ 09-20-2003, 12:38 AM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

JrKASperov · 09-20-2003, 03:20 AM

I was saying it was a better Fighter/mage cause you use a fighter mage with protective spells, then attack. The blade uses the same, but his protective spell powers grow way faster and have more power earlier(due to faster higher levels

). Yes, you may have higher thac0 with the blade, but is that really the problem with the extra special abilities+more spellprotection power?

It only does not matter when you get in the really high levels. Blades get to lvl 8, while F/M's get to lvl 9. But this is only when you already have accumulated 6000000 XP, you will be nearing the cap then.

Assassin · 09-20-2003, 08:33 AM

Well, for me it soemtimes does, and sometimes doesn't ignore SI. -_-;; Kuro comes with a PfF and PfC already up, so you do need to Breach it off first. Oh, and if you're going with the Acidic Backlash loop, then I'd suggest SI: Conjuration, because Sanchuudoku can lower your Acid REsistance, and if he manages to get in 3 or more shots (doable with his weapons speed/Improved HAste), then you're going to be huring.

Devv · 09-20-2003, 10:22 AM

SI, pfmw, pfmw, pff, pfc! Can anybody bring me up to date on this slang please [img]smile.gif[/img]

Assassin · 09-20-2003, 12:19 PM

PfMW: Protection from MAgical Weapons
PfF: Protection from Fire
PfC: Protection from Cold

Gilion · 09-20-2003, 02:30 PM

Yah!, after hours of frustration i buried him. Using acid prot scrolls, mislead, stoneskin, mirror image, improved haste, offensive spin, SI conjuration he started to fall. Unfortunately when he was near death he cast shadow door and me having no spell to detect him. I searched for either oracle or true sight but could not find one. Finally i gave up and hired Anomen, just for his true sight spell. I had no other choice, at least he is dead, gone and no more.

Appreciated the help

Leslie · 09-20-2003, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Devv:
Were comparing Blade to fighter/mage Leslie, not pure class fighter [img]smile.gif[/img] The fighter/mage gets all the blades spells and more. I recently rolled a skald, but I am very dissapointed about the song. If you drift the tinest away from the party for 2 seconds even, they lose the song effects :/ I wanted a backup caster standing back singing when he isn't casting, but instead I have to be right next to every fighter or the song doesn't work.

Oh, yeah I missed that.

And yes I was also disappointed with Skald's song radius - but check this: Enhanced Bard Song has unlimited radius !

Quote:

Because the skald was a dissapointment, I would like to try a Blade, but I am not sure how to make the best use of him (people here are saying he is very powerful). Is he ever as strong as a swashbuckler/mage?

Best use ? Dualwield somtehing + Belm (Kundane, Scarlet Ninja-To with UAI) + Improved Haste + Offensive spin !
(Using Stoneskin, Spirit Armor, Mirror Image, PFMW, SI:..., Mislead

)

You can fight Dragons solo and even Improved Irenicus if you don't mind cheese Spike Traps.

Devv · 09-20-2003, 09:04 PM

Offensive spin description says it doesn't stack with haste or improved haste :/ Anyways, I started a blade today and have done roughly a third of chapter 2 so far. I am going with a party atm and dual wielding katanas. He is lots of fun! The spin styles are great and I am using spells I never really used before with him. It was Dundee's comment that the Blade when compared to a Fighter/Mage is like a Sorcerer compared to a Mage that made me need to try him! I will solo with him once I have done SoA and ToB with him and a party I think.

09-19-2003, 09:27 PM	#12
Assassin Symbol of Cyric Join Date: March 23, 2003 Location: Canada Age: 37 Posts: 1,134	Spell Immunity: Conjuration- for immunity to the Acidic Backlash Improved Haste + Offensive Spin + Boots of Speed- to help deal out damage as well as to outrun him if necessary Breach- to remove his PfMW after waiting out 14 rounds for his SIs to run out Remove Magic- to remove his Mirror Images/Stoneskins Stoneskin- to help live long enough to cast Breach Mirror Image- to help live long enough to cast Breach as well as to have a buffer against Death Fog PfMW- when you finally attack him Fire Shields- to help create a chain of Acidic Backlashes in melee against him after he's been Breached; you'll be immune to the Acidic Backlash (might require a couple of SIs), but he won't be immune to both FSs Spell Immunity: Abjuration- to take his Remove MAgic and Breach out of the picture Order of operation: Buff with Mirror Image, Improved Haste, Offensive Spin, and SI: Abjuration during the fight. The SI is most likely the most important of the lot, followed by Improved Haste, then Offensive Spin. You should have Stoneskin on originally. Mirror Image comes next. Dodge the Death Fogs. Buy a Spell Sequencer (from Bernard if necessary), and load it up with a Stoneskin/Mirror Image/Slow + the 2 Fireshields). It would also be helpful to get a wand of Spell Striking from WK so that you can save some level 5 slots. You try to last out his SIs. Then, re-cast SI: Abjuration, SI: Conjuration, Breach, and Remove Magic as fast as possible. After the Remove Magic, cast PfMW, then attack him. Cast the Spell Sequencer ASAP. He should die very shortly afterwards. If you're still having trouble, then after the SI, cast Slow to get rid of the Haste, then the Spell Sequencer one should Slow him for real. ADD] If you're having a lot of trouble hitting him, then buy one of the potions that increase your strength from Roger the Fence. If after that, you're still having trouble, after the whole long list of debuff'ing, etc., try adding in Tenser's Transformation. [ 09-19-2003, 10:15 PM: Message edited by: Assassin ] __________________ In The Terminator, Sarah Connor is told a speech by John Connor\'s father that John has given in the future. When John is born, Sarah tells John this speech, and John grows up to tell it in the future. So who wrote the speech?!

09-20-2003, 03:20 AM	#14
JrKASperov Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 16, 2003 Location: Wa\'eni\'n Age: 39 Posts: 1,701	I was saying it was a better Fighter/mage cause you use a fighter mage with protective spells, then attack. The blade uses the same, but his protective spell powers grow way faster and have more power earlier(due to faster higher levels). Yes, you may have higher thac0 with the blade, but is that really the problem with the extra special abilities+more spellprotection power? It only does not matter when you get in the really high levels. Blades get to lvl 8, while F/M's get to lvl 9. But this is only when you already have accumulated 6000000 XP, you will be nearing the cap then. __________________ God is in the rain.

09-20-2003, 08:33 AM	#15
Assassin Symbol of Cyric Join Date: March 23, 2003 Location: Canada Age: 37 Posts: 1,134	Well, for me it soemtimes does, and sometimes doesn't ignore SI. -_-;; Kuro comes with a PfF and PfC already up, so you do need to Breach it off first. Oh, and if you're going with the Acidic Backlash loop, then I'd suggest SI: Conjuration, because Sanchuudoku can lower your Acid REsistance, and if he manages to get in 3 or more shots (doable with his weapons speed/Improved HAste), then you're going to be huring. __________________ In The Terminator, Sarah Connor is told a speech by John Connor\'s father that John has given in the future. When John is born, Sarah tells John this speech, and John grows up to tell it in the future. So who wrote the speech?!

09-20-2003, 12:19 PM	#17
Assassin Symbol of Cyric Join Date: March 23, 2003 Location: Canada Age: 37 Posts: 1,134	PfMW: Protection from MAgical Weapons PfF: Protection from Fire PfC: Protection from Cold __________________ In The Terminator, Sarah Connor is told a speech by John Connor\'s father that John has given in the future. When John is born, Sarah tells John this speech, and John grows up to tell it in the future. So who wrote the speech?!

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09-19-2003, 07:32 PM	#11
Devv The Magister Join Date: August 19, 2003 Location: Amn, city of coin Age: 43 Posts: 138	I remember stealing a tensers scroll from somebody in Waukeens promenade...probabally the scroll seller upstairs in the adventure mart.

09-20-2003, 12:19 AM	#13
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Breach ignores Spell Immunity:Abjuration, at least according to the Spell Reference Site. You just need a few spells. Protection from Acid or Spell Immunity:Conjuration Fireshield Red and/or Fireshield Blue An ability to eat a lot of cheese. After casting these spells, walk straight up to Kurio and tell him face to face, "Hit me with your best shot". Consider drinking an Oil of Speed beforehand so that you can run and cast at a safe distance away or heck, just cast PfMagical Weapons. If Kurio has PfFire and Cold, cast Breach on him. The game will then proceed to lag as Kurio fries and freezes while your character giggles from the Acidic Backlash. People who claim GWW is better than Offensive Spin fail to factor in the fact that OSpin grants maximum damage to all hits, and it lasts for 2 rounds too. Blades have access to the IBSong too, and can fight under its' influence even when soloing. Also remember... play the Bard as it is, not what you want it to be. Bards only become powerful if the person stops thinking of them as F/Ms and starts using them as Bards. This is a common mistake made by many, and applies to all classes. The Bard is to the F/M as a Sorcerer is to a Mage. [ 09-20-2003, 12:38 AM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

09-20-2003, 10:22 AM	#16
Devv The Magister Join Date: August 19, 2003 Location: Amn, city of coin Age: 43 Posts: 138	SI, pfmw, pfmw, pff, pfc! Can anybody bring me up to date on this slang please [img]smile.gif[/img]

09-20-2003, 02:30 PM	#18
Gilion Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: August 8, 2003 Location: Sweden Age: 53 Posts: 6	Yah!, after hours of frustration i buried him. Using acid prot scrolls, mislead, stoneskin, mirror image, improved haste, offensive spin, SI conjuration he started to fall. Unfortunately when he was near death he cast shadow door and me having no spell to detect him. I searched for either oracle or true sight but could not find one. Finally i gave up and hired Anomen, just for his true sight spell. I had no other choice, at least he is dead, gone and no more. Appreciated the help

09-20-2003, 09:04 PM	#20
Devv The Magister Join Date: August 19, 2003 Location: Amn, city of coin Age: 43 Posts: 138	Offensive spin description says it doesn't stack with haste or improved haste :/ Anyways, I started a blade today and have done roughly a third of chapter 2 so far. I am going with a party atm and dual wielding katanas. He is lots of fun! The spin styles are great and I am using spells I never really used before with him. It was Dundee's comment that the Blade when compared to a Fighter/Mage is like a Sorcerer compared to a Mage that made me need to try him! I will solo with him once I have done SoA and ToB with him and a party I think.

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