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Old 11-12-2009, 01:05 PM   #11
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But then you'd be a "terrorist to humanity", wouldn't you?

Like I said, I think his actions already labelled him a terrorist the minute he started firing at anyone in sight. I think the article is insinuating that somehow, because people heard him praying, it changes something. Perhaps he becomes a religous terrorist. But either ways he was a terrorist beforehand.
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Old 11-12-2009, 08:18 PM   #12
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@ Mems, well taken, and typed.

@SW, you were the chickenshitlittle that I wagered with another member who ran to the mod.

@SW, I cannot believe I'm reading that *you* typed that: GASP! The potus has yet to use the word terrorist in this case.

My concern is with the surviving families. Those are the ones in most need, and *ALL* based upon wording is *HOW* they will receive service through the VA.
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Old 11-12-2009, 09:08 PM   #13
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To speak to the moderator's points, I agree and have said so more than once. Long articles that we all well know have one intention, only serve to hurt our eyes. I'll take a slow forum any day rather than being super-crit with the power of copy & paste every time I open a thread - which naturally contains no opinions, thoughts or anything constructive.

Like I said, one intent: To forward a political viewpoint, albeit, a severely warped one at that. But of course, we all know we're talking to a wall here. Pun intended.
I saw a total of two threads that had articles removed by Luvian. That hardly qualifies as seeing an article "every time you open a thread". Then again, when we can go days without seeing ANY new threads here, I suppose you have a point.

I, personally, take exception to a Moderator not only removing content that was never stated to be against ToS, but also taking a cheap shot at the posting member during the course of invoking rules the member did not know suddenly existed.

Two posts do NOT qualify as "spamming", even on a forum as slow as IW. It would be petty for one member to make that comment to another. It is simply shameful for a Mod to do so and should be worthy of a reprimand for overstepping (or abusing) their position.
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Old 11-12-2009, 09:20 PM   #14
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If you are not happy with a moderator's decision take it to PMs. I'm sure Memnoch here would be happy to chat about it with you. :p
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Old 11-12-2009, 09:47 PM   #15
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If you are not happy with a moderator's decision take it to PMs. I'm sure Memnoch here would be happy to chat about it with you. :p
I am not happy with a moderators actions (unprofessional comment towards a member), not the moderators decision (editing out the article). Those are two different things.

If Memnoch or Ziroc wish to discuss my comments with me, they are welcome to do so.
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Old 11-12-2009, 09:52 PM   #16
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Was he a terrorist? He used violence to spread fear that (I'm guessing) he hoped would influence political policy. Sounds like a terrorist to me...

Can someone explain to me why, on a military base full of soldiers whose JOB is to use weapons to make war, it took a civilian police officer to take this SOB out? Aren't soldiers allowed to carry guns on base? I applaud her actions. Even after getting shot she still did her job, which is damned impressive, but why was she even needed? The Israelis and Swiss Must Think We're Idiots is an editorial by the director of a firearms training school who asked that question, and I'd like to hear the answer myself...
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Old 11-12-2009, 11:40 PM   #17
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Listen, we all know each other here and I'm not going to call people out like we're in preschool, we've been here long enough. Nobody influenced us with the decision. My post provided suggestions on how to better post articles to stimulate discussion, so stimulate activity in the forum, and Felix was a good enough bloke to take the suggestion in the spirit I gave it. No offence was intended. Let's move on from the mod decisions and stick to topic please.
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Old 11-13-2009, 03:09 AM   #18
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@SW, you were the chickenshitlittle that I wagered with another member who ran to the mod.
Hm? Are you referring to the time you responded a moderators post with another post that could have possibly gotten you suspended or banned - but then hurriedly deleted it in hopes he wouldn't see, and then got pissed when you found out I saw it and called you out on it in public? If so, I seem to recall it was YOU scurrying for the hills, hehe. If not, well, it was worth mentioning here anyways just for nostalgias sake.

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It might be because "terrorist" has become such a buzz word now due to the actions and constant usage of the Bush admin, and Obama knows all too well just how retarded his country can be. Indeed, they can even support wars in wrong countries when it's thrown around enough. At least, that was my first thought and is what I would prolly do if I were him.
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Old 11-13-2009, 03:24 AM   #19
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I saw a total of two threads that had articles removed by Luvian. That hardly qualifies as seeing an article "every time you open a thread". Then again, when we can go days without seeing ANY new threads here, I suppose you have a point.
Eh? I am talking about Felix threads. You know, the each and every thread he posts that contains a giant eye-impairing wall of text, with nothing offered. You remember, the ones that all slant one way. The ones he spams the forums with. The countless. Endless, stretching all the way from GD to CE and back again. Those posts.

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I, personally, take exception to a Moderator not only removing content that was never stated to be against ToS, but also taking a cheap shot at the posting member during the course of invoking rules the member did not know suddenly existed.
Come on now, well deserved. And, spamming breaks the ToS last I checked - not content. As far as cheap shots go, I didn't see any. And lets be realistic, you're no stranger to them even if there were any - nor is FTA. But, back to my point, I do not find "You're not a spambot - or are you?" a cheapshot in any way. Just saying. Unless I am missing something here.

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Two posts do NOT qualify as "spamming", even on a forum as slow as IW. It would be petty for one member to make that comment to another. It is simply shameful for a Mod to do so and should be worthy of a reprimand for overstepping (or abusing) their position.
Again, talking about these, the endless articles you will see if you click on his name and select "Find all posts". The moderators are now saying this is becoming an issue. So these latest two were editted. What's with the confusion here?
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Old 11-13-2009, 05:41 AM   #20
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Was he a terrorist? He used violence to spread fear that (I'm guessing) he hoped would influence political policy. Sounds like a terrorist to me...

Can someone explain to me why, on a military base full of soldiers whose JOB is to use weapons to make war, it took a civilian police officer to take this SOB out? Aren't soldiers allowed to carry guns on base? I applaud her actions. Even after getting shot she still did her job, which is damned impressive, but why was she even needed? The Israelis and Swiss Must Think We're Idiots is an editorial by the director of a firearms training school who asked that question, and I'd like to hear the answer myself...
Well. I can't tell you *why*, but I can tell you.....Yes, the military are not allowed to walk about the base armed. That being said, there are some that are armed...if their normal OR currently assigned duty (such as range practice) calls for it. I spent most of my career during the Cold War and it was routine to pass the gate guards and see their weapons had no clips! But at least after 9/11 they actually started giving loaded weapons to the guards.
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