The language change? - Page 2

johnny · 06-21-2002, 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by Melusine:

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Yeah, most English swear words are derived from Anglo-Saxon.

But not "the f-word", as a matter of fact. It is in origin a Germanic word (and does not stand for Fornicating Under Consent of the King, that's just an urban legend).
The first occurence of the word in Scots (and from there, to English) was in the beginning of the 16th century, in a poem by William Dunbar. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Webster: akin to Dutch fokken to breed (cattle), Swedish dialect fokka to copulate[/QUOTE]Melusine..... you continue to amaze me !!!!

Epona · 06-21-2002, 09:08 PM

Yeah, our language is mostly Germanic. We do have some French influence, but not a lot. It's a bit of a hotch-potch really, what is now England has been invaded so many times over the millennia, and of course the language has incorporated words from many languages. Many English place names are absolutely fascinating in their origins, coming from Celtic, Roman, Viking, Saxon and Norman influences depending on when the settlement was founded. 'London' is from the Roman Londinium, whereas York is from Viking 'Jorvik' (it was Eboracum in the Roman period). I grew up in Guildford, the name of which is Saxon in origin.

On your point about bad language - well I'm afraid I swear like a sailor - and being in my 30s I can't claim the innocence/exuberence of youth.

[ 06-21-2002, 09:10 PM: Message edited by: Epona ]

Arnabas · 06-21-2002, 09:15 PM

Well, my 8 year-old neice swears up a storm when she plays video games and I just want to smack her. But her mother (my wife's sister) has absolutely no control over her whatsoever.
Personally, I rarely swear and I can't swear at all in front of my parents, even though I am 31... The ONE time I did, I was about 20. I was in my back yard and a bird pooped on me. I yelled, my then-girlfriend asked what was wrong and I said quite loudly "a bird shat on me!" At least, even in my anger, I still managed to conjugate my curse correctly. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Scholarcs · 06-21-2002, 09:35 PM

If some little kid that I know swears around me, I would hit him, either my brother or cousins etc. They shouldn`t be allowed by their parents to swear while they are under 10 at least. Neither should they be allowed to watch movies, play games etc. in which there is alot of swearing.

06-21-2002, 09:08 PM	#12
Epona Zartan Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: London, England Age: 53 Posts: 5,164	Yeah, our language is mostly Germanic. We do have some French influence, but not a lot. It's a bit of a hotch-potch really, what is now England has been invaded so many times over the millennia, and of course the language has incorporated words from many languages. Many English place names are absolutely fascinating in their origins, coming from Celtic, Roman, Viking, Saxon and Norman influences depending on when the settlement was founded. 'London' is from the Roman Londinium, whereas York is from Viking 'Jorvik' (it was Eboracum in the Roman period). I grew up in Guildford, the name of which is Saxon in origin. On your point about bad language - well I'm afraid I swear like a sailor - and being in my 30s I can't claim the innocence/exuberence of youth. [ 06-21-2002, 09:10 PM: Message edited by: Epona ] __________________ [img]\"http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/epona.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

06-21-2002, 09:15 PM	#13
Arnabas Baaz Draconian Join Date: October 11, 2001 Location: Montreal,Quebec,Canada Age: 53 Posts: 721	Well, my 8 year-old neice swears up a storm when she plays video games and I just want to smack her. But her mother (my wife's sister) has absolutely no control over her whatsoever. Personally, I rarely swear and I can't swear at all in front of my parents, even though I am 31... The ONE time I did, I was about 20. I was in my back yard and a bird pooped on me. I yelled, my then-girlfriend asked what was wrong and I said quite loudly "a bird shat on me!" At least, even in my anger, I still managed to conjugate my curse correctly. [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ Est Sularis oth Mithas

06-21-2002, 09:35 PM	#14
Scholarcs Red Dragon Join Date: December 5, 2001 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Age: 38 Posts: 1,557	If some little kid that I know swears around me, I would hit him, either my brother or cousins etc. They shouldn`t be allowed by their parents to swear while they are under 10 at least. Neither should they be allowed to watch movies, play games etc. in which there is alot of swearing. __________________ <br />\"A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five\" - Groucho Marx<br />Member of the ORT Clan. <br />\"Some birds are not meant to be caged because their feathers are too bright\"<br />Ma bouche sera la bouche des malheurs qui n\'ont point de bouche, ma voix, la liberté de celles qui s\'affaissent au cachot du désespoir. - Aimé Césaire<br />La plus perdue de toutes les journées est celle où l\'on n\'a pas ri. - Sébastien Roch Nicolas

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