The birth of a liger - Page 2

Megabot · 08-29-2002, 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by andrewas:

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Originally posted by Megabot:
That was a strange animal how can that bee tru? i thot it was inpossible to cross a Tiger and a Lion ... maby they have done some genetic thingy with those animals. [img]graemlins/saywhat.gif[/img]

Tigers and Lions are both Big Cats so there not that far apart. horses and DOnkeys can do it (Mules), cats and rabbits can do it (Dunno what you call it but they dont live all that long), so i dont see any reason for it to be impossible[/QUOTE]I wonder how a cat and a rabbits would look like someone that have a pic of that?

Sazerac · 08-29-2002, 04:10 PM

Such crosses have been known to occur before. Ligers are extremely rare, but possible. I'm not sure what the potential health problems of such a hybrid are, but I'm almost certain that they are sterile (cannot reproduce), like mules.

Interesting post! Thanks. [img]smile.gif[/img]

-Saz

P.S. Just read the article, LOL...it validated my claim about the "sterility" issue.

[ 08-29-2002, 04:12 PM: Message edited by: Sazerac ]

Spelca · 08-29-2002, 05:15 PM

I found a page about 'cabbits' (cat + rabbit; the myth, hehe). I didn't read the whole page, but just enough to see it's not possible. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

http://www.messybeast.com/cabbit.htm

Morgeruat · 08-29-2002, 10:29 PM

Ligers do indeed exsist as well as Tigons (it depends on the matriarchy for which breed it is considered, we had a circus come to town a few weeks back that had some Ligers, it was entertaining for Justi (my 3 1/2 y/o stepdaughter)

Dagorion · 08-29-2002, 10:42 PM

I want one, I WANT ONE!!! *runs to parents demanding they get him a Liger for his birthday* And tht Liger/Tigon hybreed must have been one hell of a cat!

The Ornery One · 08-29-2002, 10:50 PM

Don't remember exactly, but Jack Hanna had a liger brought out on the Tonight Show (one with Jay Leno?). If the father is a lion, the result is a giant of the species with tiger-like appearance. Slightly larger than normal sized if tiger fathered. Absolutly beautiful creature!

Epona · 08-30-2002, 04:35 AM

I thought Liger/Tigon hybrids were a fairly well known phenomenon, not as common as mules.

Similar species within a genus can hybridise but the offspring are usually sterile, it occurs in the wild sometimes but more often in captivity or where numbers in the wild are low due to lack of choice. It's quite common amongst birds (ruddy ducks are causing a problem in one part of the UK because they are hybridising with a similar species, there is a danger the other species could die out as a result), especially parrots because most of them form life-long monogamous bonds with one partner - so sometimes they'll pair up with a mate from a different species, they seem quite irrational when picking mates - it's either hate or love at first sight. My parrot thinks I am his bonded mate and I'm not even a bird (at least not of the feathered variety!), so there you go.

edin gal · 08-30-2002, 10:37 AM

Hope the baby liger is ok, let me know if you hear anything please

Lifetime · 08-30-2002, 11:34 AM

Holy mother... that cat according to the site is at least 600pounds heavy.. now that is one HELL of a cat and probably one HELL of a hunter. Thats ridiculously huge!
But with this interbreeding of species you'd wonder if such animals were actually meant to exist from the very beginning anyway, thus explaining the surprising lack of genetic defects. Probably not, since they're inherently sterile but still.. that cat is a monster. Now THAT is what I call a king of the jungle. Bigger and stronger than a Siberian Tiger, bout 4 times the weight of a man and scary enough to be a statue. Damn..

johnny · 08-30-2002, 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by Lifetime:
Holy mother... that cat according to the site is at least 600pounds heavy.. now that is one HELL of a cat and probably one HELL of a hunter. Thats ridiculously huge!
But with this interbreeding of species you'd wonder if such animals were actually meant to exist from the very beginning anyway, thus explaining the surprising lack of genetic defects. Probably not, since they're inherently sterile but still.. that cat is a monster. Now THAT is what I call a king of the jungle. Bigger and stronger than a Siberian Tiger, bout 4 times the weight of a man and scary enough to be a statue. Damn..

I think it's like that phrase they used in Jurassic Park: Nature will find a way.

08-29-2002, 04:10 PM	#12
Sazerac Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Monroe, LA Age: 60 Posts: 7,387	Such crosses have been known to occur before. Ligers are extremely rare, but possible. I'm not sure what the potential health problems of such a hybrid are, but I'm almost certain that they are sterile (cannot reproduce), like mules. Interesting post! Thanks. [img]smile.gif[/img] -Saz P.S. Just read the article, LOL...it validated my claim about the "sterility" issue. [ 08-29-2002, 04:12 PM: Message edited by: Sazerac ] __________________ "And all my days are trances, and all my nightly dreams, Are where thy grey eye glances, and where thy footstep gleams, In what ethereal dances, by what eternal streams..."

08-29-2002, 05:15 PM	#13
Spelca Emerald Dragon Join Date: January 3, 2002 Location: From Slovenia, in Sweden Age: 42 Posts: 931	I found a page about 'cabbits' (cat + rabbit; the myth, hehe). I didn't read the whole page, but just enough to see it's not possible. [img]tongue.gif[/img] http://www.messybeast.com/cabbit.htm __________________ At one time or another there will be a choice: you or the wall. (J. Winterson)

08-29-2002, 10:29 PM	#14
Morgeruat Jack Burton Join Date: October 16, 2001 Location: PA Age: 43 Posts: 5,421	Ligers do indeed exsist as well as Tigons (it depends on the matriarchy for which breed it is considered, we had a circus come to town a few weeks back that had some Ligers, it was entertaining for Justi (my 3 1/2 y/o stepdaughter) __________________ "Any attempt to cheat, especially with my wife, who is a dirty, dirty, tramp, and I am just gonna snap." Knibb High Principal - Billy Madison

08-29-2002, 10:42 PM	#15
Dagorion Red Wizard of Thay Join Date: November 23, 2001 Location: That coffee stain on your map (Australia) Age: 37 Posts: 868	I want one, I WANT ONE!!! runs to parents demanding they get him a Liger for his birthday And tht Liger/Tigon hybreed must have been one hell of a cat! __________________ <br />2,500 left handers die each year using products designed for right handers.

08-29-2002, 10:50 PM	#16
The Ornery One Drow Warrior Join Date: May 17, 2002 Location: S. IL Age: 49 Posts: 269	Don't remember exactly, but Jack Hanna had a liger brought out on the Tonight Show (one with Jay Leno?). If the father is a lion, the result is a giant of the species with tiger-like appearance. Slightly larger than normal sized if tiger fathered. Absolutly beautiful creature! __________________ I like to wonder.<br />And when I wonder<br />My mind wanders.<br />And when it wanders,<br />I have to wonder;<br />When will it ever come back?!?

08-30-2002, 04:35 AM	#17
Epona Zartan Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: London, England Age: 53 Posts: 5,164	I thought Liger/Tigon hybrids were a fairly well known phenomenon, not as common as mules. Similar species within a genus can hybridise but the offspring are usually sterile, it occurs in the wild sometimes but more often in captivity or where numbers in the wild are low due to lack of choice. It's quite common amongst birds (ruddy ducks are causing a problem in one part of the UK because they are hybridising with a similar species, there is a danger the other species could die out as a result), especially parrots because most of them form life-long monogamous bonds with one partner - so sometimes they'll pair up with a mate from a different species, they seem quite irrational when picking mates - it's either hate or love at first sight. My parrot thinks I am his bonded mate and I'm not even a bird (at least not of the feathered variety!), so there you go. __________________ [img]\"http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/epona.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

08-30-2002, 10:37 AM	#18
edin gal Dungeon Master Join Date: August 19, 2002 Location: scotland Age: 59 Posts: 82	Hope the baby liger is ok, let me know if you hear anything please

08-30-2002, 11:34 AM	#19
Lifetime Red Dragon Join Date: March 3, 2001 Location: Scotch College, Melbourne Posts: 1,503	Holy mother... that cat according to the site is at least 600pounds heavy.. now that is one HELL of a cat and probably one HELL of a hunter. Thats ridiculously huge! But with this interbreeding of species you'd wonder if such animals were actually meant to exist from the very beginning anyway, thus explaining the surprising lack of genetic defects. Probably not, since they're inherently sterile but still.. that cat is a monster. Now THAT is what I call a king of the jungle. Bigger and stronger than a Siberian Tiger, bout 4 times the weight of a man and scary enough to be a statue. Damn.. __________________ \'Cause its always raining in my head. Forget all the things I should have said..

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