Question About Antlers - Page 2

Dragen Vonrack · 12-17-2002, 08:08 PM

well from what I known here in the north west of england, it would not be insulting to any one, I asked around here to friends and family and everyone here just thinks its cute.

*\Conan/* · 12-17-2002, 09:02 PM

If a stray cat saw this it would only be very intersted, in a cat's way, how it could play with the antlers right away

- I don't care where your from! LOL!

Ladyzekke · 12-17-2002, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by *\Conan/*:
If a stray cat saw this it would only be very intersted, in a cat's way, how it could play with the antlers right away - I don't care where your from! LOL!

Bardan the Slayer · 12-17-2002, 10:38 PM

I would not be insulted by this, and would have no idea why anyone else would be [img]smile.gif[/img]

Donut · 12-18-2002, 05:16 AM

LadyZ, this took me back to the days of struggling with Chaucer and Shakespeare. Throughout history antlers have been the symbol for a cuckold in art and literature.

The Cambridge Grammar of the English Language
Definition

cuckold (noun) [C]

a man whose wife deceives him by having a sexual relationship with another man

cuckold (verb) [T]

If a man or woman is cuckolded, their wife or husband has a sexual relationship with another person.

He came back from a three-month trip abroad to discover that he had been cuckolded.

The explaination of how this came to be:

To wear the horns. To be a cuckold:

In the rutting season, the stags associate with the fawns: one stag selects several females, who constitute his harem, till another stag comes who contests the prize with him. If beaten in the combat, he yields up his barem to the victor, and is without associates till he finds a stag feebler than himself, who is made to submit to similar terms. As stags are horned, and made cuckolds of by their fellows, the application is palpable.

This is also where we get the term 'horny'.

Nobody in the UK would take offense.

[ 12-18-2002, 05:18 AM: Message edited by: Donut ]

Epona · 12-18-2002, 08:04 AM

Yeah just to confirm that it would not be considered offensive by anyone in the UK (unless they are of Ukrainian origin it seems LOL!) I might be seeing a Ukrainian friend tonight so if I do I'll ask her about that!

Borvik · 12-18-2002, 09:44 AM

In Germany it's a well known expression, but it's not used as a secret hint for someone (at least I haven't noticed so far). I wouldn't try this in southern europe anyway. In southern Italy it could cause a lot of trouble!

Cloudbringer · 12-18-2002, 10:35 AM

ROTFL! I can see where it came from , but I didn't think it was a modern concern (the antler image, I mean! LOL). I've spent time in the USSR (Moscow and Leningrad/Petersburg) and never had that come up.

Mouse · 12-18-2002, 12:24 PM

Actually, the "manu cornuta" is an insult in many contemporary Italianate cultures and also has some occult significance. Feel free to call me a smartass

Ladyzekke · 12-18-2002, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Donut:
LadyZ, this took me back to the days of struggling with Chaucer and Shakespeare. Throughout history antlers have been the symbol for a cuckold in art and literature.

The Cambridge Grammar of the English Language
Definition

cuckold (noun) [C]

a man whose wife deceives him by having a sexual relationship with another man

cuckold (verb) [T]

If a man or woman is cuckolded, their wife or husband has a sexual relationship with another person.

He came back from a three-month trip abroad to discover that he had been cuckolded.

The explaination of how this came to be:

To wear the horns. To be a cuckold:

In the rutting season, the stags associate with the fawns: one stag selects several females, who constitute his harem, till another stag comes who contests the prize with him. If beaten in the combat, he yields up his barem to the victor, and is without associates till he finds a stag feebler than himself, who is made to submit to similar terms. As stags are horned, and made cuckolds of by their fellows, the application is palpable.

This is also where we get the term 'horny'.

Nobody in the UK would take offense.

Thanks oh high throned pastry, I guess that explains it then, although again antlers have NO significance in that way here in America. LOL, but I can see the similarities, re the stag taking a lesser stag's harem. Also, I always wondered where the word "horny" came from, LOL, now I know! It's apparently all about the antlers baby!

errr. haha! [img]smile.gif[/img]

12-17-2002, 08:08 PM	#11
Dragen Vonrack Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: December 13, 2001 Location: North West England Age: 42 Posts: 34	well from what I known here in the north west of england, it would not be insulting to any one, I asked around here to friends and family and everyone here just thinks its cute. __________________ A powerful man does not need to study the universe piece by piece to be its master, all he has to do is look apon it and it will change to his desirer.

12-17-2002, 09:02 PM	#12
\Conan/ Red Dragon Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Virginia, USA Age: 62 Posts: 1,512	If a stray cat saw this it would only be very intersted, in a cat's way, how it could play with the antlers right away - I don't care where your from! LOL! __________________ \\Conan/
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12-17-2002, 10:38 PM	#14
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12-18-2002, 05:16 AM	#15
Donut Jack Burton Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Airstrip One Age: 40 Posts: 5,571	LadyZ, this took me back to the days of struggling with Chaucer and Shakespeare. Throughout history antlers have been the symbol for a cuckold in art and literature. The Cambridge Grammar of the English Language Definition cuckold (noun) [C] a man whose wife deceives him by having a sexual relationship with another man cuckold (verb) [T] If a man or woman is cuckolded, their wife or husband has a sexual relationship with another person. He came back from a three-month trip abroad to discover that he had been cuckolded. The explaination of how this came to be: To wear the horns. To be a cuckold: In the rutting season, the stags associate with the fawns: one stag selects several females, who constitute his harem, till another stag comes who contests the prize with him. If beaten in the combat, he yields up his barem to the victor, and is without associates till he finds a stag feebler than himself, who is made to submit to similar terms. As stags are horned, and made cuckolds of by their fellows, the application is palpable. This is also where we get the term 'horny'. Nobody in the UK would take offense. [ 12-18-2002, 05:18 AM: Message edited by: Donut ] __________________ [img]\"http://www.wheatsheaf.freeserve.co.uk/roastspurs.gif\" alt=\" - \" /> <br />Proud member of the Axis of Upheaval<br />Official Titterer of the Laughing Hyenas<br />Josiah Bartlet - the best President the US never had.<br />The 1st D in the D & D Show

12-18-2002, 08:04 AM	#16
Epona Zartan Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: London, England Age: 53 Posts: 5,164	Yeah just to confirm that it would not be considered offensive by anyone in the UK (unless they are of Ukrainian origin it seems LOL!) I might be seeing a Ukrainian friend tonight so if I do I'll ask her about that! __________________ [img]\"http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/epona.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

12-18-2002, 09:44 AM	#17
Borvik Drow Warrior Join Date: November 25, 2002 Location: Germany Age: 57 Posts: 274	In Germany it's a well known expression, but it's not used as a secret hint for someone (at least I haven't noticed so far). I wouldn't try this in southern europe anyway. In southern Italy it could cause a lot of trouble! __________________ There are two times in a man\'s life when he should not speculate: when he can\'t afford it, and when he can.<br /><br />(Mark Twain)

12-18-2002, 10:35 AM	#18
Cloudbringer Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Upstate NY USA Posts: 19,737	ROTFL! I can see where it came from , but I didn't think it was a modern concern (the antler image, I mean! LOL). I've spent time in the USSR (Moscow and Leningrad/Petersburg) and never had that come up. __________________ "Don't take life for granted." Animal (may he rest in peace)

12-18-2002, 12:24 PM	#19
Mouse Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Scotland Posts: 2,788	Actually, the "manu cornuta" is an insult in many contemporary Italianate cultures and also has some occult significance. Feel free to call me a smartass __________________ Regards Mouse (Occasional crooner and all round friendly Scottish rodent)

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