10-08-2001, 03:04 AM | #11 | |
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Out of curiosity, where are you a professor, anyway? (Not an issue of putting anyone down, just want to know where not to send my kids. If you don't know the diference between patriotism, and what Hitler insighted his nation to, I really don't want my children (when I have them) exposed to a school who would hire you.) Again, this is NOT a flame (although Dio welcomed flames in his post) I am really SERIOUS!!! ------------------ Captain of Bouncers, Boogre Bar LH Member And you never did think that it ever would happen again, in America did you? And you never did think that we'd ever get together again, but we damn sure fooled ya. We're walkin' real proud and we're talkin' real loud again, in America. And you never did think that it ever would happen again.... (Charlie Daniels) |
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10-08-2001, 03:11 AM | #12 | |
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------------------ Captain of Bouncers, Boogre Bar LH Member And you never did think that it ever would happen again, in America did you? And you never did think that we'd ever get together again, but we damn sure fooled ya. We're walkin' real proud and we're talkin' real loud again, in America. And you never did think that it ever would happen again.... (Charlie Daniels) |
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10-08-2001, 03:14 AM | #13 | |
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whats up Liliara? how fare WWF? |
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10-08-2001, 03:22 AM | #14 | |
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For the record, I am not a pacifist, an atheist, nor a professor or teacher. And anyway, my point is about patriotism leading people to blindly follow their government, not to the ends of the particular government. Patriotism is a MORALLY NEUTRAL quality. It can be a force used both for good and bad. It is simply a tool in the hands of government leaders, to be manipulated and used for their own ends. |
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10-08-2001, 03:38 AM | #15 |
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Interesting thread from someone who claims illumination... still, the Angel of Light's main purpose is deception.
Lifetime, you make a great response. Add to that the Deutsch collective psychology of a nation without natural boundaries, the uncertainty throughout Deutschland resultant from the failed economy, failing democracy and lost war, and the fact that time, geography, culture and history seperate Americans in 2001AD and the Deutch of 1940 and the picture of a needlessly erronious post comparing the two becomes increasingly clear. I'd also add that Patriotism is a morally positive, rather than morally neutral value. Love is a morally positive value, and patriotism is love for ones country. Patriotism does not mean hatred of another country. Do we hate everyone else when we love a spouse? ------------------ I am the walrus!.... er, no hang on.... A fair dinkum laughing Hyena! |
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We are not talking love other other human beings here, or love of any living being, but rather a sense of blind loyalty, a willingness to fight for the "spouse" whether they are in the right or not, and that is NOT a morally good thing. [This message has been edited by Diogenes Of Pumpkintown (edited 10-08-2001).] |
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10-08-2001, 03:52 AM | #17 | |
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If you care to read my post again, instead of throwing things into it which I did not say, you will see that I am talking about a general principle, the old nationalistic patriot sentiment of "my country right or wrong". Look at the phrase, quoted, MY COUNTRY RIGHT OR WRONG. And you claim this is not a morally neutral position? RIGHT OR WRONG. [This message has been edited by Diogenes Of Pumpkintown (edited 10-08-2001).] |
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10-08-2001, 03:55 AM | #18 | |
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What Hitler gave the german people was focus on something. Focus their hate. On the jews. I bet he didn't hate jews at all (his grandmother was one). But he realized that he could use their misery to gain power. It was as simple as that. ------------------ We call him Bobby Corwen |
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10-08-2001, 04:01 AM | #19 | |
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YORICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've missed you, by darn! ------------------ Captain of Bouncers, Boogre Bar LH Member And you never did think that it ever would happen again, in America did you? And you never did think that we'd ever get together again, but we damn sure fooled ya. We're walkin' real proud and we're talkin' real loud again, in America. And you never did think that it ever would happen again.... (Charlie Daniels) |
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10-08-2001, 04:05 AM | #20 | |
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Hmmm.... thought I remembred a post where you said you were a professor. ------------------ Captain of Bouncers, Boogre Bar LH Member And you never did think that it ever would happen again, in America did you? And you never did think that we'd ever get together again, but we damn sure fooled ya. We're walkin' real proud and we're talkin' real loud again, in America. And you never did think that it ever would happen again.... (Charlie Daniels) |
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