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I'm with Dadams, I honestly don't think good or evil exists, either. We all do what we were meant to, what we feel is right. Obviously Hitler was screwed up mentally, but he wouldn't have done what he did without good reason in his own mind. This is why you won't hear me call Bin Laden an evil SOB. Hitler brought periods of prosperity to Germany, rallying the depressed people and bringing the massive inflation problem to an end. Something like this had to happen - Germany was spiralling downwards so fast it's not even cool - Hitler just forced the climax.
I'd like to watch the movie, sounds really interesting. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Thirdly, after Hitler declared war on us, that was when he started sending vast numbers of U-boats to sink our ships. And he succeeded; we sustained more losses than the Germans. [/QUOTE]I do not know where you get your informantion. There are so amny errors here that I hardly know where to begin. Yeah, the U-Boats of Paukenschrift had a few successes in the Carribean but that was because the escorts and planes were drawn back to cover the vital New York and Halfax-based convoys, and they failed abysmally to interrupt that pipeline. Over 95% of all merchants on those routes arrived safe, see Clay Blair's massive, two-volume Hitler's U-Boat War. Doenitz wanted to fight a tonnage war, where as he should have sent his U-Boats against those vital convoys. The losses in the Carribean and along the East Coast hurt, sure, but were nowhere near fatal. When we started convoying and using aircraft in the Caribbean, the U-Boats had a less 'Happy Time.' The factories that were moved were well within Wehrmacht, let alone Luftwafe range, see Richard J. Overy's Why the Allies Won. The 'civilian resistance' that counted was in those factories.
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