Prisons DO NOT WORK. Here's why! - Page 2

SecretMaster · 01-13-2003, 07:12 PM

I say take this to the state or council or whatever. Action must be taken at this point, and if the system says no, make them say yes.

Yorick · 01-13-2003, 08:22 PM

If this story is true, the solution for the 'guard' is simple.

Quit.

Animal · 01-13-2003, 08:28 PM

While I agree that is certainly an outrage, that's not the case with every prison.

/)eathKiller · 01-13-2003, 09:11 PM

Write your Senator! and have your brother write too!

Sir Krustin · 01-13-2003, 09:21 PM

That's insane, even we Canajuns lock our prisoners up! (except in the lowest security of prisons, the halfway house)

A sure recipe for dead security guards.

Rokenn · 01-13-2003, 09:56 PM

It sounds like the prison guard union that runs the prison's in your Bro's area are inept. The prisons here in california get more money then the education system, due entirely to the prison guard union here. It makes me sick to think about it.

Aragorn The Wise · 01-13-2003, 10:20 PM

If I was warden of that prison there would be some serious changes. 140 prisoners, basically people who I would assume convicted of violent crimes would not be in a open room with one unarmed guard. The first sign of any sort of disturbance would mean hell for those prisoners. These people in my eyes deserve no respect or any sort of fancy treatment. Either you shape up or ship out in a body bag.

The Hunter of Jahanna · 01-14-2003, 03:06 AM

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Um.... Hunter of J, I think you're expecting a bit much. What *you* would do might not be tennable for everyone. Also, with 140-1 odds, this is a perfect example where the machismo attitude, when taken to the extreme, can set you up to be a Darwin Award Recipient.

And, I don't know about your kung-fu-gai or your current sensai, but everyone I've ever met who actually *was* the "real deal" with martial arts didn't have to talk so much smack.

I think you missed the first part of my post about just walking out. The second part was about not haveing any other choice but to go in there. I think you also missed the part about probably loseing. It isnt about "machismo" it is about simple respect. When you stand up to a bully it doesnt matter if you win or lose because they have some respect for the fact that you stood up for yourself in the first place.

Borvik · 01-14-2003, 03:19 AM

I can't understand, why they send someone in at all, if the can't afford to send in more people!?!
The job could easily be done (and probably even better and cheaper) by some hidden cameras for example. That's a shame!

Rikard_OHF · 01-14-2003, 03:37 AM

Prisons do work but not like this
Ganging prisoners together, and giving them all the time in the world to chatter with one another is just asking for trouble.
That's why a lot of ex-convicts cant get out of the criminal scene, after all they meet new criminals inside the prsion with whom they'll cooperate later
there should be at least 2 shifts of guards of 2 persons each, who dont have to come near the prisoners, and who can wear at least a stick
This situation you described is just sick

01-13-2003, 08:22 PM	#12
Yorick Very Mad Bird Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Breukelen (over the river from New Amsterdam) Age: 52 Posts: 9,246	If this story is true, the solution for the 'guard' is simple. Quit. __________________ http://www.hughwilson.com

01-13-2003, 08:28 PM	#13
Animal Gold Dragon Join Date: March 29, 2002 Location: Canada Age: 52 Posts: 2,534	While I agree that is certainly an outrage, that's not the case with every prison. __________________ It\'s all fun and games until somebody loses an eye...then it becomes a sport.<br /> [img]\"http://members.shaw.ca/mtholdings/bsmeter.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

01-13-2003, 09:11 PM	#14
/)eathKiller Dracolisk Join Date: January 5, 2002 Location: Guantanamo Bay, Cuba Age: 39 Posts: 6,043	Write your Senator! and have your brother write too! __________________ [img]\"http://membres.lycos.fr/th8or/ZeroSigForIronworks.gif\" alt=\" - \" /> o.o;

01-13-2003, 09:21 PM	#15
Sir Krustin Symbol of Cyric Join Date: September 15, 2002 Location: Peterborough, ON, CANADA Age: 60 Posts: 1,394	That's insane, even we Canajuns lock our prisoners up! (except in the lowest security of prisons, the halfway house) A sure recipe for dead security guards. __________________ If I say \"Eject!\" and you say \"Huh?\" - you\'ll be talking to yourself! - Maj. Bannister, <b>Steel Tiger</b>

01-13-2003, 09:56 PM	#16
Rokenn Galvatron Join Date: January 22, 2002 Location: california wine country Age: 60 Posts: 2,193	It sounds like the prison guard union that runs the prison's in your Bro's area are inept. The prisons here in california get more money then the education system, due entirely to the prison guard union here. It makes me sick to think about it. __________________ “This is an impressive crowd, the haves and the have mores. <br />Some people call you the elite. <br />I call you my base.”<br />~ George W. Bush (2000)

01-13-2003, 07:12 PM	#11
SecretMaster Join Date: October 19, 2001 Location: New York Age: 38 Posts: 4,666	I say take this to the state or council or whatever. Action must be taken at this point, and if the system says no, make them say yes.

01-13-2003, 10:20 PM	#17
Aragorn The Wise Manshoon Join Date: December 30, 2002 Location: USA Age: 39 Posts: 172	If I was warden of that prison there would be some serious changes. 140 prisoners, basically people who I would assume convicted of violent crimes would not be in a open room with one unarmed guard. The first sign of any sort of disturbance would mean hell for those prisoners. These people in my eyes deserve no respect or any sort of fancy treatment. Either you shape up or ship out in a body bag. __________________ <br />If TCP/IP handshaking was less formal, perhaps SYN/ACK would be YO!/SUP! instead...

01-14-2003, 03:19 AM	#19
Borvik Drow Warrior Join Date: November 25, 2002 Location: Germany Age: 57 Posts: 274	I can't understand, why they send someone in at all, if the can't afford to send in more people!?! The job could easily be done (and probably even better and cheaper) by some hidden cameras for example. That's a shame! __________________ There are two times in a man\'s life when he should not speculate: when he can\'t afford it, and when he can.<br /><br />(Mark Twain)

01-14-2003, 03:37 AM	#20
Rikard_OHF Beholder Join Date: March 4, 2001 Location: Het Hertogdom Gelre!!!!! Age: 39 Posts: 4,364	Prisons do work but not like this Ganging prisoners together, and giving them all the time in the world to chatter with one another is just asking for trouble. That's why a lot of ex-convicts cant get out of the criminal scene, after all they meet new criminals inside the prsion with whom they'll cooperate later there should be at least 2 shifts of guards of 2 persons each, who dont have to come near the prisoners, and who can wear at least a stick This situation you described is just sick __________________ [img]\"http://confed.xl-designs.com/siggeh18.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[bunny]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/bunny.gif\" /> Return of the Bunny Army! <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[bunny]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/bunny.gif\" />

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