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Old 09-05-2003, 01:20 AM   #11
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ROFLMAO! If he's an Asian I'm not suprise he'll wrote/type like that.
Now why would that be? [img]graemlins/uhoh2.gif[/img]
BTW He's an Austrian just like me (although my father is an Indian and my grandmother was a Czech and my grandfather was a German and ... you get the picture)
[/QUOTE]ever heard of Manglish ( Mandirin English ) before? though Singlish ( Singaporean English ) is pretty similar too.
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Old 09-05-2003, 01:34 AM   #12
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Micah, Azred, I could be wrong, but I think Faceman is not the one responsible for the boy's grades. As far as I can tell, he is there to teach the boy as an extracurricular (out-of-regular-school) teacher. The teacher giving the boy D's must then be his regular teacher. Perhaps conferring with said teacher might aid the situation?
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Old 09-05-2003, 02:59 AM   #13
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Micah, Azred, I could be wrong, but I think Faceman is not the one responsible for the boy's grades. As far as I can tell, he is there to teach the boy as an extracurricular (out-of-regular-school) teacher. The teacher giving the boy D's must then be his regular teacher. Perhaps conferring with said teacher might aid the situation?
Exactly! I'm only coaching him out of school to "aid his learning efforts" except that there are none. I can give him homework and tests but regardless how he finishes them I cannot "fail" him because he has no "goal" to accomplish at my class. I probably will try to get in touch with his regular teacher and let you know how it turned out.

Sometimes I wonder about cases like this one: Why don't I tell the guy to die stupid if he wants to and concentrate more on the rest of my class? I guess I just can't give up on kids. Pretty pathetic.
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Old 09-05-2003, 10:24 AM   #14
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tell the kid to stop using AOL

"OMGWTFLOLzoRZ!!!11!!1!1 ths grt yll!!1!!1!"

bad english capital of the world :
www.engrish.com
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seriosly though, there is little you can do to help someone who doesnt want helping. the only thing you could do is talk to him. ask him why he doesnt care maby?

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Old 09-05-2003, 02:45 PM   #15
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Are you sure he hasn't got some kind of attention disorder like ADHD or similar? So he's on Junior High...how are his former grades? Any problems with the parents?

You should talk to his regular teacher(s), and if he's just lazy they should give him an F, no excuses. I assume what you perform on regular classes has an influence on your final grade, right?
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Old 09-05-2003, 03:01 PM   #16
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Well I don't think it's ADHD, because some people say I have it (and I'm definitely NOT like that). ADHD symptoms are that you're extremely tense all the time, wanting to do things, whatever time it is, right? If he's not spoiled, then I would just say that he has a wrong attitude, and there's a simple and effective solution to that problem: just punish him for it.

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Old 09-05-2003, 03:16 PM   #17
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Sometimes I wonder about cases like this one: Why don't I tell the guy to die stupid if he wants to and concentrate more on the rest of my class? I guess I just can't give up on kids. Pretty pathetic.
It's hard when you care... it really is. You see what they could be, if only...

Sometimes, the most powerful message you can send is "no thanks". Even though his parents have paid for the extra tutoring package, if you were to come back after a bit and tell them to forget it, that since their son isn't interested in learning and improving, there's no sense in wasting their money or your time.

It's not fun to give up, but some times it's the right decision.

A possible response would be that since you're the hot-shot coach, you should be able to figure out how to motivate him to want to learn. My counter-response would be that good people make a bad system work, while bad people make a good system fail. Until he chooses to be successful, he will probably never get there.
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Old 09-05-2003, 04:57 PM   #18
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There's no way that kid is dyslexic, just lazy. I mean, I only did German for three years, and two of those years were with a teacher who liked to dress in frilly pink aprons, climb on the desk, claim he was a fairy and ask us to call him "Marmaduke", and I know how to say, "I have a sister".
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Old 09-06-2003, 12:53 AM   #19
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Well, perhaps I am being a little hard on the student...but that is better than being too soft. [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img]
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Old 09-06-2003, 01:35 AM   #20
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There's no way that kid is dyslexic, just lazy. I mean, I only did German for three years, and two of those years were with a teacher who liked to dress in frilly pink aprons, climb on the desk, claim he was a fairy and ask us to call him "Marmaduke", and I know how to say, "I have a sister".
Then say it, I dare you

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Talked to my boss and it turns out that "our" solution will be to just ignore this problem as long as he does well on tests. His parents have been spoken to but don't care and since "our job" (i.e. what we are paid for) is to coach kids NOT to fail classes it would be kinda weird to ask his regular teachers to fail him, at least my boss forbid me to
I dah a short feeling of "I gotta stand up for this" but then - reality check:"I'm poor and I'm not risking my job for a lazy spoiled kid"
So he'll keep writing sentences like: "The mann the dog the stik" ("The man throws the stick for the dog to catch") and I'll keep reading him the exact German translation loud in front of the class and they'll be laughing and he'll be laughing (though I don't quite get why he does) and I'll have no other motivational tool left. *sigh* well there are still my Latin students. At least they have SOME senses.
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