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How much do you know about what it is to have spiritual faith?[/QUOTE]You didn't read the last part of his post. |
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I know I am stretching this to the point of ridiculousness. But I am doing it on purpose. Your argument about carbon dating basically boils down to that if I can't prove it myself then it is suspect, or a matter of faith. Science is a self-correcting mechanism, if enough evidence piles up something is wrong then then world model is changed. It has changed in the past and I'm certain it will change again in the future.
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How much do you know about what it is to have spiritual faith?[/QUOTE]Nice way to miss the entire point of my post. I specificly addressed those points in the portion of the post you cut. You may want to take some time to cool off little Yorrick. I think you are getting a bit worked up.
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How much do you know about what it is to have spiritual faith?[/QUOTE]You didn't read the last part of his post.[/QUOTE]That's irrelevent. I was asking how much he understands about having spiritual faith. See, I know what it is to love science. I enjoy discovery. Spiritual faith INCLUDES the processes used in science. Theology itself is a science. Science and spiritual faith are not preclusive. Rokkens post, aside from ascribing human qualities to an abstract concept, (ie. Science is not afraid??) It seems to show a lack of understanding of people of faith. Simply citing historical instances of persecution is meaningless. Was Caesar killed for religious reasons or because he was going to 'buck the political system'. Politics, greed, fear. These things are what cause contention. Religious bodies can be filled by fearful, greedy politically minded folk just like any other body of people. Like a scientific institute. When ideas about Time travel were put forward a few years ago, large numbers of German scientists said that and I quote: "Such thinking should not be allowed". Should not be allowed? Thought control? Science is knowledge. Knowledge is ammoral. Knowledge cannot be afraid, fearless, evil, conservative or radical. It is the people who possess it who can be any of those things, as any person can. |
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It doesn't prove anything other than mice and humans share similar (minus 300 differences) gene codes. That is what has been found and proven. Anything else is speculation. |
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If I tell you the moon is a big ball of cheese and show you reports of scientists who have landed on and eaten the cheese (independent corroboration), but you don't go to the moon yourself, that really isn't faith, it is more like trust. You are trusting the scientists to present their cases truthfully. |
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