05-23-2002, 09:41 AM | #141 | |
Very Mad Bird
Join Date: January 7, 2001
Location: Breukelen (over the river from New Amsterdam)
Age: 52
Posts: 9,246
|
Quote:
Lift cameras in New York City feel more invasive than any Singaporean cameras. Additionally, what's wrong with the caning? When in Rome, do as the Romans do. The law there is "don't graffiti or you get caned". The idiot graffitied. What was going to happen? Special treatment? Exemption for the American rich kid? What about the Asian that comes to America? You expect him/her to obey your road rules don't you? Don't you scream abuse if they are not up to standard? When in Rome.... Singapore is without doubt the safest city I have visited. It doesn't have the drug problems Australia for example has, doesn't have the "blackened gum pollution" New York streets have (nor gum sabotaged railways) and has no graffiti. Considering it was them against the world when they got kicked out of Malaysia, I think Singapore have done exceptionally well for themselves, and have a right to decide what they value in their society and what they don't. [ 05-23-2002, 09:44 AM: Message edited by: Yorick ] |
|
05-23-2002, 09:46 AM | #142 | |
Jack Burton
Join Date: March 1, 2001
Location: Airstrip One
Age: 40
Posts: 5,571
|
Quote:
__________________
[img]\"http://www.wheatsheaf.freeserve.co.uk/roastspurs.gif\" alt=\" - \" /> <br />Proud member of the Axis of Upheaval<br />Official Titterer of the Laughing Hyenas<br />Josiah Bartlet - the best President the US never had.<br />The 1st D in the D & D Show |
|
05-23-2002, 09:48 AM | #143 | |
Very Mad Bird
Join Date: January 7, 2001
Location: Breukelen (over the river from New Amsterdam)
Age: 52
Posts: 9,246
|
Quote:
Sorry Sir Tainly, violent crime went DOWN after the gun control. [img]smile.gif[/img] Post Donut edit: eek! Certainly sorry Sir Taliesin! [ 05-23-2002, 09:56 AM: Message edited by: Yorick ] |
|
05-23-2002, 09:51 AM | #144 | |
Very Mad Bird
Join Date: January 7, 2001
Location: Breukelen (over the river from New Amsterdam)
Age: 52
Posts: 9,246
|
Quote:
|
|
05-23-2002, 09:54 AM | #145 | |
Jack Burton
Join Date: March 1, 2001
Location: Airstrip One
Age: 40
Posts: 5,571
|
Quote:
Sorry Sir Tainly, violent crime went DOWN after the gun control. [img]smile.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]Pssst, Yorick. That's the wrong Sir T.
__________________
[img]\"http://www.wheatsheaf.freeserve.co.uk/roastspurs.gif\" alt=\" - \" /> <br />Proud member of the Axis of Upheaval<br />Official Titterer of the Laughing Hyenas<br />Josiah Bartlet - the best President the US never had.<br />The 1st D in the D & D Show |
|
05-23-2002, 10:01 AM | #146 | |
Very Mad Bird
Join Date: January 7, 2001
Location: Breukelen (over the river from New Amsterdam)
Age: 52
Posts: 9,246
|
Quote:
|
|
05-23-2002, 10:02 AM | #147 |
Guest
Posts: n/a
|
I never threaten any one. I do promise, and on occasion even speculate but never threaten.
|
05-23-2002, 10:03 AM | #148 | |
Fzoul Chembryl
Join Date: August 30, 2001
Location: somewhere
Age: 54
Posts: 1,785
|
Quote:
and it's not about untrained people getting a gun and maybe using it. it's about criminals HAVING a gun, and you don't. thats all i'm trying to say.[/QUOTE]The point is that owning an SMG is overkill. It is legal in certain states of the US to own it. Again, i don't have anything against responsible people owning a pistol or rifle but an SMG IS overkill. It's all about untrained, and even worse, unbalanced people owning a gun. That's why so many people get shot over, well, nothing, if you think about it. If the criminal has a gun and you don't, i agree that, to put it mildly, you are at a disadvantage. But it's rather easy for untrained and unstable people to get one legally. The threat doesn't lie solely with the criminals. If you allow such a free selling of guns, overpowered guns to people who aren't carefull enough with them or are not totally balanced, you're going to get 'accidents'. Why do you need a very powerfull gun to protect yourself when a normal pistol will do ? This is my point. Again i do not have anything against trained and balanced people owning a gun but why does it have to be a powerfull one ?[/QUOTE]Machine guns and military class weapons are VERY expensive and VERY strictly controlled. They are primarily only carried by organizations that maintain military historical items, or people who are involved in high security or the manufacture and transport of said items. You can't simply go and purchase a SMG as a normal citizen just because you want one. The licensing procedures for this are quite expensive and stringent also.
__________________
Master Barbsman and wielder of the razor wit!<br /><br />There are dark angels among us. They present themselves in shining raiment but there is, in their hearts, the blackness of the abyss. |
|
05-23-2002, 10:10 AM | #149 | |
Very Mad Bird
Join Date: January 7, 2001
Location: Breukelen (over the river from New Amsterdam)
Age: 52
Posts: 9,246
|
Quote:
"I do promise" sounds like a threat. I'd be careful here mate. This is thin ice you're treading on. What are you saying? |
|
05-23-2002, 10:20 AM | #150 | |
Very Mad Bird
Join Date: January 7, 2001
Location: Breukelen (over the river from New Amsterdam)
Age: 52
Posts: 9,246
|
Quote:
I reject the statement guns don't kill people, people kill people, for a few reasons. 1.Guns can go off by accident and kill. 2.The gun serves no other purpose than to end life. It is a tool of death. Two humans on the other hand, can create life. 3.A child can kill 6 -10 adults with a gun, and without would not even kill one. HOWEVER, and this is why I'm replying to you, using "Straw Man" as a parrotlike reply to someones argument, is not only deaf, insulting, name calling and cause diminishing, it is also trollishly antagonising. Give it a rest mate. [ 05-23-2002, 10:24 AM: Message edited by: Yorick ] |
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
kotor guns | Rokc Cadarn | Miscellaneous Games (RPG or not) | 6 | 09-01-2004 08:18 AM |
About modern guns | Bozos of Bones | General Discussion | 11 | 08-29-2003 11:10 AM |
Do ya like guns??? | Larry_OHF | General Conversation Archives (11/2000 - 01/2005) | 126 | 02-12-2003 09:21 AM |
Guns ??? | Bad Mr. Frosty | General Conversation Archives (11/2000 - 01/2005) | 6 | 05-29-2002 06:25 AM |
Guns 2 | Ar-Cunin | General Conversation Archives (11/2000 - 01/2005) | 5 | 05-27-2002 10:49 PM |