09-09-2001, 09:35 AM | #111 | |
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Melusine, I hadn't thought how my comment might hurt those that can't have children. For that I am truely sorry It was very callous!!! Mel, your comment has also got me thinking about something else. I was watching TV the other night friday night. There was a program on about "average people" being heroes and how everyone had a story. It was on CBS. The reporter and a camera man/producer go somewhere in America, anywhere actually (they use the tried and true method of throwing a dart at a map). When they get there, they open the phone book and at random start calling people to interview (they have gone through has many has forty people until they find someone that will agree to an interview). they they spend several days with them until they find a story. In Michigan they found a couple in their thirties that couldn't have children. Soon after they got married, she developd some problems and had to have a hesterectomy (sp), so no children. They ended up become foster parents to two little boys. These two children were born to drug addicted parents, who apparently didn't take care of them. When the aurthoities got them off the streets at the ages of 4 and 6, they could barely talk and weren't clothed properily. the four year old wasn't even potty trained. This couple took them in about 4 or 5 years ago and where able to adopt them. They currently have another foster child, a baby, that they are trying to adopt as well. The point of this long story, that I have laboriously typed out, is that there are always ways to have children. There are also a lot of children out there to adopt! ------------------ Sir Taliesin If they take my gun can I still use my Axe? |
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09-09-2001, 12:18 PM | #112 | |
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09-10-2001, 01:20 PM | #113 |
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Ya know..I was just gonna let this thread die, but I just have to say this....I is NOT the western societies that are breeding at ridiculously accelerated rates. The birth rates in the USA are somewhat moderate to low. When I was a child in grade school, the population of the US (circa 1970) was estimated at 240 million, Now even with all the immigration some 30 years later our estimated population is still less than 300 million, couple that with the fact that we are living longer than ever that would indicate our "western" civilization is not scarfing up all the useable land. In the USA there is far more land not being used for any particular purpose than the other way around. Even our largest cities population density is lower than the large cities in the Asian parts of the globe. I would also like to point out that China a reletivly low tech country per capita seems to be able to feed most of its people and is still gaining population at quite a rate....Looks to me like maybe the Westerners have the better ideas in this arena...just my 2 cents.
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09-10-2001, 01:33 PM | #114 | |
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But I will say, don't assume that all childless people do not or cannot appreciate the "responsibilities, pleasures and burdens of parenthood". Some of us can. The responsibilities and burdens are some of what made me decide not to have children and, watching my friends with their children, I know full well the pleasures I'm missing. That pleasure is somewhat supplanted by the pets I have as I care for them as I would a child. And the experience I had growing up and helping raise my cousin as well as teaching 3 year olds and helping my friend with hers has given me a bit of a chance to know what it's like. ------------------ "Allright! We'll call it a draw." "I'm INVINCIBLE! ... You're a LOONEY!" Dare to dream. Be bold enough to try. The day we stop learning is the day we start dying!(c) |
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09-10-2001, 03:23 PM | #115 |
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DragonMage I know several people who see their pets as their "children"
It is somewhat of a curiosity thing for me as I wonder just how much difference there is in how they and/or you feel about the pet as opposed to how people with "human" children feel. I suppose it is one of those unanswerable questions, as it is with beauty most of those quantifiables are in they eye of the beholder. Still animals will always be more limited in just how much they can relate to their "parents" and just how much can be exchanged. I had many pets (mostly Labradors) when I was growing up in the country, but never crossed that barrier of being able to see them as anything more than animals and pets and my love for them never even held a glimmer to what I felt for my children...errr feel...feel for my children...just because the oldest has gotten into that pre-teen thing does NOT mean I do not love him....repeat to self many times!!!!!! ------------------ Disintigration is easy, If you really want to impress me, ReIntegrate it. [This message has been edited by MagiK (edited 09-10-2001).] |
09-10-2001, 04:06 PM | #116 | |
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