Clerics just as powerful as mages - Page 11

toriuxik · 01-07-2002, 02:01 PM

Oki day... Here is what the cleric does: sanctuary, then scroll on self. Mage can cast TS if he wants. He can't do crap for spell damage, so, thinking himself frightfully intellgient, he summons a plethora of enemies. Laughing all the way, the mage sits and waits for TS to end and the foolish cleric to die. However, the cleric wearing boots of speed just runs away from the summoned enemies! Then, he casts another scroll of antimagic on the mage, and runs away until the summoned morons are gone.

Animate dead doesn't last long enough I don't think...

Even still, the cleric can outlast the mage this way and eventually pound him into goo.

Sir ReGiN · 01-07-2002, 02:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by toriuxik:
Oki day... Here is what the cleric does: sanctuary, then scroll on self. Mage can cast TS if he wants. He can't do crap for spell damage, so, thinking himself frightfully intellgient, he summons a plethora of enemies. Laughing all the way, the mage sits and waits for TS to end and the foolish cleric to die. However, the cleric wearing boots of speed just runs away from the summoned enemies! Then, he casts another scroll of antimagic on the mage, and runs away until the summoned morons are gone. Animate dead doesn't last long enough I don't think... Even still, the cleric can outlast the mage this way and eventually pound him into goo.

Two words, TIME STOP

Dundee Slaytern · 01-08-2002, 12:55 AM

*groan*

Anyway, for your information, Skeleton Warriors last for 8 hours. Mages may run out of spells, but a Sorcerer will never run out of spells thanks to Project Image and Wish.

Also, you are still assuming that you can cast the scroll on the Mage. This is like the upteem time that I am repeating this... you cannot cast on an invisible Mage.

toriuxik · 01-08-2002, 01:19 PM

lol, nobody ever mentioned sorcerers.

And besides, if your mage is aflicted with a scroll that prevents spell casting, he can't cast spells like mirror image or Wish...

lol, besides, sorcerers aren't mages. They are sorcerers! lol [img]smile.gif[/img]

Um, timestop was dealt with. The cleric casts the wonderful scroll and your timestop won't really accomplish much. You summon stuff, and eventually, as the cleric can run fast enough, will fall apart. Meanwhile, the mage gets a scroll cast on HIM too eventually. At this time, Its only a matter of time before the mage falls. Invisiblilty wears off eventually, and eventually, all summoned creatures disapear. :> At this time, as the mage is scrolled, he can't do anything but try to run away himself now.

Grindar Silvermane · 01-08-2002, 01:48 PM

Here I return from being awol for a couple a weeks and to my surprise the discussion still rages on [img]smile.gif[/img]
Good to see that we all still have our favourite kinda character class and still are willing to prove how powerful they are when pitted against the other classes (i.e. cleric vs mage/sorcerer)

Ezekial · 01-08-2002, 07:06 PM

Just wondering if in all of this people are considering equipment aswell as spells/power?

Dundee Slaytern · 01-09-2002, 01:13 AM

Who says that invisibility is limited? So long as I do not make an offensive move, the invisibility stays... forever until the Mage dies of old age or something.

Note: Time Stop is not considered an offensive spell, something to bear in mind.

Glorfindel · 01-09-2002, 02:44 AM

r u sure invisibilty last 4eva..... and wat about detect invisibility???

Dundee Slaytern · 01-09-2002, 03:44 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Glorfindel:
r u sure invisibilty last 4eva..... and wat about detect invisibility???

Yes, at least for the level 2 spell, Invisibility( although we can also mention the Staff of Magi).

Cloak of Non-Detection takes care of invisibility-purging spells.

StormCast · 01-09-2002, 04:49 AM

Thats right, just reequip the staf and ur invisibillity is up again. And with robe of Venca u can cast TS on 4, then u cast around 20 spells in the TS, and The cleric will die when time starts. The mage7sorc have reequiped the staff and are invisible again.

01-07-2002, 02:07 PM	#102
Sir ReGiN Gold Dragon Join Date: August 11, 2001 Location: The land of blonde virgins Age: 43 Posts: 2,563	quote: Originally posted by toriuxik: Oki day... Here is what the cleric does: sanctuary, then scroll on self. Mage can cast TS if he wants. He can't do crap for spell damage, so, thinking himself frightfully intellgient, he summons a plethora of enemies. Laughing all the way, the mage sits and waits for TS to end and the foolish cleric to die. However, the cleric wearing boots of speed just runs away from the summoned enemies! Then, he casts another scroll of antimagic on the mage, and runs away until the summoned morons are gone. Animate dead doesn't last long enough I don't think... Even still, the cleric can outlast the mage this way and eventually pound him into goo. Two words, TIME STOP __________________ Take a look at your Promised Land<br />Your deed is that gun in your hand

01-08-2002, 01:48 PM	#105
Grindar Silvermane Manshoon Join Date: December 4, 2001 Location: Temple of Tempus: The High Hall of Swords and Banners Age: 56 Posts: 164	Here I return from being awol for a couple a weeks and to my surprise the discussion still rages on [img]smile.gif[/img] Good to see that we all still have our favourite kinda character class and still are willing to prove how powerful they are when pitted against the other classes (i.e. cleric vs mage/sorcerer) __________________ Chaos rules!<br /><br />Grindar Silvermane<br />The Sword of the Lord<br /><br />And cause & effect of the Chaos Theory

01-08-2002, 07:06 PM	#106
Ezekial The Magister Join Date: November 1, 2001 Location: Bournemouth, England Posts: 114	Just wondering if in all of this people are considering equipment aswell as spells/power? __________________ I will strew your flesh upon the mountains, and fill the valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land even to the mountains with your flowing blood...<br />Ezekiel 32:5

01-09-2002, 03:44 AM	#109
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	quote: Originally posted by Glorfindel: r u sure invisibilty last 4eva..... and wat about detect invisibility??? Yes, at least for the level 2 spell, Invisibility( although we can also mention the Staff of Magi). Cloak of Non-Detection takes care of invisibility-purging spells.

01-09-2002, 04:49 AM	#110
StormCast Dungeon Master Join Date: December 5, 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 66	Thats right, just reequip the staf and ur invisibillity is up again. And with robe of Venca u can cast TS on 4, then u cast around 20 spells in the TS, and The cleric will die when time starts. The mage7sorc have reequiped the staff and are invisible again. __________________ Three Rings for the elven kings under the sky,<br />Seven for the dvarf lords in their halls of stone,<br />Nine for mortal men doomed to die,<br />And One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne,<br />In the lands of Mordor where the shadows lie.<p>One Ring to rule them all,<br />One Ring to find them,<br />One ring to bring them all,<br />And in the darkness bind them.<br />In the lands of Mordor where the shadows lie.<p><br />StormCast

01-07-2002, 02:01 PM	#101
toriuxik Banned Smartass Join Date: November 26, 2001 Location: Who cares Posts: 216	Oki day... Here is what the cleric does: sanctuary, then scroll on self. Mage can cast TS if he wants. He can't do crap for spell damage, so, thinking himself frightfully intellgient, he summons a plethora of enemies. Laughing all the way, the mage sits and waits for TS to end and the foolish cleric to die. However, the cleric wearing boots of speed just runs away from the summoned enemies! Then, he casts another scroll of antimagic on the mage, and runs away until the summoned morons are gone. Animate dead doesn't last long enough I don't think... Even still, the cleric can outlast the mage this way and eventually pound him into goo.

01-08-2002, 12:55 AM	#103
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	groan Anyway, for your information, Skeleton Warriors last for 8 hours. Mages may run out of spells, but a Sorcerer will never run out of spells thanks to Project Image and Wish. Also, you are still assuming that you can cast the scroll on the Mage. This is like the upteem time that I am repeating this... you cannot cast on an invisible Mage.

01-08-2002, 01:19 PM	#104
toriuxik Banned Smartass Join Date: November 26, 2001 Location: Who cares Posts: 216	lol, nobody ever mentioned sorcerers. And besides, if your mage is aflicted with a scroll that prevents spell casting, he can't cast spells like mirror image or Wish... lol, besides, sorcerers aren't mages. They are sorcerers! lol [img]smile.gif[/img] Um, timestop was dealt with. The cleric casts the wonderful scroll and your timestop won't really accomplish much. You summon stuff, and eventually, as the cleric can run fast enough, will fall apart. Meanwhile, the mage gets a scroll cast on HIM too eventually. At this time, Its only a matter of time before the mage falls. Invisiblilty wears off eventually, and eventually, all summoned creatures disapear. :> At this time, as the mage is scrolled, he can't do anything but try to run away himself now.

01-09-2002, 01:13 AM	#107
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Who says that invisibility is limited? So long as I do not make an offensive move, the invisibility stays... forever until the Mage dies of old age or something. Note: Time Stop is not considered an offensive spell, something to bear in mind.

01-09-2002, 02:44 AM	#108
Glorfindel Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: January 9, 2002 Location: Mt. Gambier, Australia Age: 37 Posts: 3,337	r u sure invisibilty last 4eva..... and wat about detect invisibility???

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