Creating language for a novel - Page 2

Talthyr Malkaviel · 03-08-2003, 09:51 PM

Steal one languages grammar, and then replace that languages words with combination words from several other languages.

Examples: Tolkien based one elven tongue (or more) on Finnish, another was very influenced by Welsh, the grammar structure, I'm not sure exactly how he concocted.

Firim Silraven · 03-09-2003, 10:43 AM

Thanks everyone. I think I'll mix up the suggestions and take everyone's advice. It's all good. But I think I'll write the basic story first then add in the bits with the language after, working out the language during the time when I'm writing but not actually writing.

Firim Silraven · 03-09-2003, 10:50 AM

On a related note, that I just remembered, I'm looking for good names for my story, but I'm not great at coming up with them. If anyone on Ironworks has made up their username name and wouldn't mind me using it, drop me a line and you can be in the story! You never know, you may be the next big fantasy character!

/)eathKiller · 03-09-2003, 11:11 AM

the important trick is to use lots of redundant 's for no apparent reason, like " F'sarg J'Jaro' 'jivi'ti'ti Li'l V'rix ! "

Or even better, put in odd symbols like the german double S : β

other symbols I recomend: ∞ ± √ ★ ¤ ¥ … Й ∴ ∵

So you could be like: "Hi v'vriv'r've'faf'fef'afs'wswweeewee how're you doing today?

"I'ntai'v'd'ies'ska'ji ∴ !"

"Wow that's really intersesting... go on..."

"∞ Cubed oife' f's'a jijia'ndaurka'rnka funka!"

"Й ! and how'd you pronounce that?"

"fg'g'dse'f34'r's'fw' ★! df3' fdsf'fsd'd !!"

"... ripping out your tounge and slipping it around your head 8 and a half times, very interesting..."

" P'oiut!"

" So long v'vriv'r've'faf'fef'afs'wswweeewee!"

or better: Use numbers in place of vowels, 1 = A 2 = E 3 = I 4 = O 5 = U

Hence:

4nc2 5p4n 1 t3m2 ...

Dude 77 · 03-09-2003, 11:14 AM

i always make up random words like : draho'cletea (for whats that) as used in one of my novels

Attalus · 03-09-2003, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by Firim Silraven:
On a related note, that I just remembered, I'm looking for good names for my story, but I'm not great at coming up with them. If anyone on Ironworks has made up their username name and wouldn't mind me using it, drop me a line and you can be in the story! You never know, you may be the next big fantasy character!

LOL, my wife made up my username, and it already is a character inher fantasy novels.

slicer15 · 03-09-2003, 12:01 PM

I always find name generators useful!

here is one at download.com. Pick the name mage, it's the best one.

RevRuby · 03-09-2003, 04:27 PM

i like tkae friend names and play witht hem. like my friend sharyn has beent he name for a familiar and a caharacter, just played with sharynna for the cat,nick named rynna, and la'ryn for the character. not hard to think of since i call her sha'ryn.

03-08-2003, 09:51 PM	#11
Talthyr Malkaviel Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: August 31, 2001 Location: Land of the Britons Age: 37 Posts: 3,224	Steal one languages grammar, and then replace that languages words with combination words from several other languages. Examples: Tolkien based one elven tongue (or more) on Finnish, another was very influenced by Welsh, the grammar structure, I'm not sure exactly how he concocted. __________________ Resident cantankerous sorcerer of the Clan HADB<br />and Sorcerous Nuttella salesman of the O.R.T<br /> <br /><br />Say NO to the Trouser Tyranny! Can I drill you about this?

03-09-2003, 10:43 AM	#12
Firim Silraven Dungeon Master Join Date: July 29, 2002 Location: Whitehaven, Cumbria, UK Age: 40 Posts: 83	Thanks everyone. I think I'll mix up the suggestions and take everyone's advice. It's all good. But I think I'll write the basic story first then add in the bits with the language after, working out the language during the time when I'm writing but not actually writing. __________________ MONKEYS! They're great aren't they?

03-09-2003, 10:50 AM	#13
Firim Silraven Dungeon Master Join Date: July 29, 2002 Location: Whitehaven, Cumbria, UK Age: 40 Posts: 83	On a related note, that I just remembered, I'm looking for good names for my story, but I'm not great at coming up with them. If anyone on Ironworks has made up their username name and wouldn't mind me using it, drop me a line and you can be in the story! You never know, you may be the next big fantasy character! __________________ MONKEYS! They're great aren't they?

03-09-2003, 11:11 AM	#14
/)eathKiller Dracolisk Join Date: January 5, 2002 Location: Guantanamo Bay, Cuba Age: 39 Posts: 6,043	the important trick is to use lots of redundant 's for no apparent reason, like " F'sarg J'Jaro' 'jivi'ti'ti Li'l V'rix ! " Or even better, put in odd symbols like the german double S : β other symbols I recomend: ∞ ± √ ★ ¤ ¥ … Й ∴ ∵ So you could be like: "Hi v'vriv'r've'faf'fef'afs'wswweeewee how're you doing today? "I'ntai'v'd'ies'ska'ji ∴ !" "Wow that's really intersesting... go on..." "∞ Cubed oife' f's'a jijia'ndaurka'rnka funka!" "Й ! and how'd you pronounce that?" "fg'g'dse'f34'r's'fw' ★! df3' fdsf'fsd'd !!" "... ripping out your tounge and slipping it around your head 8 and a half times, very interesting..." " P'oiut!" " So long v'vriv'r've'faf'fef'afs'wswweeewee!" or better: Use numbers in place of vowels, 1 = A 2 = E 3 = I 4 = O 5 = U Hence: 4nc2 5p4n 1 t3m2 ... __________________ [img]\"http://membres.lycos.fr/th8or/ZeroSigForIronworks.gif\" alt=\" - \" /> o.o;

03-09-2003, 11:14 AM	#15
Dude 77 Manshoon Join Date: April 24, 2002 Location: Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada Posts: 221	i always make up random words like : draho'cletea (for whats that) as used in one of my novels __________________ The Dude is in the house<br /><br /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[rocking2]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/rocking2.gif\" /> <br /><br />Dude 77

03-09-2003, 12:01 PM	#17
slicer15 Symbol of Cyric Join Date: November 12, 2002 Location: Banstead, Southeast England Age: 37 Posts: 1,162	I always find name generators useful! here is one at download.com. Pick the name mage, it's the best one.

03-09-2003, 04:27 PM	#18
RevRuby Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Limbo Age: 44 Posts: 1,720	i like tkae friend names and play witht hem. like my friend sharyn has beent he name for a familiar and a caharacter, just played with sharynna for the cat,nick named rynna, and la'ryn for the character. not hard to think of since i call her sha'ryn. __________________ peek-a-boo

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