Single Player like BG2 or what? - Page 2

jonny bear · 03-08-2002, 04:06 AM

i coulda swore that bg2 used 3rd ed rules, cuz it has the 3rd ed classes like monk and sorceror etc and u can duel weild weapons and stuff, i thought it was third ed rules that let u do that and i could have sworn that on the box it says it uses 3rd ed rules, somebody pls correct me if i am wrong.

Redblueflare · 03-08-2002, 09:00 AM

If I remember right you will be able to control your one NPC. The catch is that when you're controlling him, your own character won't be able to move. I don't think your NPC's will carry over to online games though.

Oh and I read about the control system. They might have hotkeys but are really pushing a new control system instead. Right click and then push your mouse in three different directions. For example up, right, right, could be magic missle. Up Right Up, could be fireball etc. I'm taking a guess here, but that gives you a lot more options than hotkeys.

Dreamer128 · 03-08-2002, 09:51 AM

quote:
Originally posted by jonny bear:
i coulda swore that bg2 used 3rd ed rules, cuz it has the 3rd ed classes like monk and sorceror etc and u can duel weild weapons and stuff, i thought it was third ed rules that let u do that and i could have sworn that on the box it says it uses 3rd ed rules, somebody pls correct me if i am wrong.

I think they added certain 3rd edition rules to the game, but its 2nd edition in general.

fable · 03-08-2002, 10:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Lemernis:
Two big differences: You won't be able to assemble parties of six as you did in BG. Instead you will have one 'henchman' you can control to some limited degree. And you will play without pausing (which was only necessary because of the burden of having to control up to 6 characters anyway).

My impression is that parties will be allowed, but only of up to three characters. As for pausing: yes, it is in the game, but only the standalone module. Understandably, it can't be supported in multiplayer mode. (This last point I have directly from the developers.)

Holy Knight Delita · 03-09-2002, 09:23 PM

Who told you you couldn't dual wield in 2nd Edition? I know, since i own the DM guide, that you can dual wield in 2nd edition and im pretty sure Barbarian, Monk, and Sorcerer are in the second edition as well.

jonny bear · 03-11-2002, 04:03 AM

so how come monks etc werent in the first bg, also u couldnt duel wield in bg 1

jonny bear · 03-11-2002, 05:38 AM

Dont get me wrong i arent stil arguing that bg2 is third edition but i think i now agree with what somebody said above that some elements from third ed were added to the second edition in bg2

ispq · 03-11-2002, 12:08 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Holy Knight Delita:
im pretty sure Barbarian, Monk, and Sorcerer are in the second edition as well.

Those three classes, Barbarian, Monk, and Sorcerer, did not exist as basic classes in 2nd edition AD&D. Various kits and specialized classes found in the numerous 2nd edition AD&D supplements allowed you to play as Barbarian and Monks, and possibly even as something similar to Sorcerer.

Barbarian and Monks were both classes in 1st edition AD&D, though the Sorcerer was not.

Lady Blue03 · 03-17-2002, 02:48 AM

So tell me, i know NWN is gonna be mostly a muli-player game, so is accessing multi-player gonna be easier? i mean i never did on BG2 cause it was way too confusing. If youve played Diablo or Diablo2 multiplayer, you know how easy it is to access. So will it be easier or the same as it is now?

Redblueflare · 03-24-2002, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lady Blue03:
So tell me, i know NWN is gonna be mostly a muli-player game, so is accessing multi-player gonna be easier? i mean i never did on BG2 cause it was way too confusing. If youve played Diablo or Diablo2 multiplayer, you know how easy it is to access. So will it be easier or the same as it is now?

Definitely! [img]smile.gif[/img] Bioware (Or is it Black Isle?) is putting a lot of work into the toolset for this game. Now you can customize absolutely everything, and there a slew of new multiplayer ideas. Ideas that weren't around in BG2.

RedBlueFlare
The dragon tamer lives on...

03-08-2002, 04:06 AM	#11
jonny bear Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: February 1, 2002 Location: England Posts: 18	i coulda swore that bg2 used 3rd ed rules, cuz it has the 3rd ed classes like monk and sorceror etc and u can duel weild weapons and stuff, i thought it was third ed rules that let u do that and i could have sworn that on the box it says it uses 3rd ed rules, somebody pls correct me if i am wrong. __________________ Respect me! Hate me! Fear me!!!

03-08-2002, 09:00 AM	#12
Redblueflare Galvatron Join Date: May 9, 2001 Location: The backwoods in Georgia sigh Age: 40 Posts: 2,151	If I remember right you will be able to control your one NPC. The catch is that when you're controlling him, your own character won't be able to move. I don't think your NPC's will carry over to online games though. Oh and I read about the control system. They might have hotkeys but are really pushing a new control system instead. Right click and then push your mouse in three different directions. For example up, right, right, could be magic missle. Up Right Up, could be fireball etc. I'm taking a guess here, but that gives you a lot more options than hotkeys. __________________ <br /><br />\"If you ever need me just whistle, and i\'ll come running. I promise. <img border=\"0\" title=\"\" alt=\"[Smile]\" src=\"smile.gif\" /> <br />Kupo, Kupo! A man can\'t get a sword if he can\'t dance! <img border=\"0\" title=\"\" alt=\"[Big Grin]\" src=\"biggrin.gif\" />

03-08-2002, 09:51 AM	#13
Dreamer128 Dracolisk Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Europe Age: 39 Posts: 6,136	quote: Originally posted by jonny bear: i coulda swore that bg2 used 3rd ed rules, cuz it has the 3rd ed classes like monk and sorceror etc and u can duel weild weapons and stuff, i thought it was third ed rules that let u do that and i could have sworn that on the box it says it uses 3rd ed rules, somebody pls correct me if i am wrong. I think they added certain 3rd edition rules to the game, but its 2nd edition in general.

03-08-2002, 10:52 PM	#14
fable Quintesson Join Date: March 17, 2001 Location: Where I am. Posts: 1,089	quote: Originally posted by Lemernis: Two big differences: You won't be able to assemble parties of six as you did in BG. Instead you will have one 'henchman' you can control to some limited degree. And you will play without pausing (which was only necessary because of the burden of having to control up to 6 characters anyway). My impression is that parties will be allowed, but only of up to three characters. As for pausing: yes, it is in the game, but only the standalone module. Understandably, it can't be supported in multiplayer mode. (This last point I have directly from the developers.)

03-09-2002, 09:23 PM	#15
Holy Knight Delita Manshoon Join Date: December 4, 2001 Location: Michigan, United States Age: 37 Posts: 233	Who told you you couldn't dual wield in 2nd Edition? I know, since i own the DM guide, that you can dual wield in 2nd edition and im pretty sure Barbarian, Monk, and Sorcerer are in the second edition as well. __________________ \"Me and you are caught up in the same flow... I\'m just swimming against it\" -Delita Hyral-<br />\"All mortal men are destined to die, but death cannot kill their names.\" -Icelandic Proverb-

03-11-2002, 04:03 AM	#16
jonny bear Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: February 1, 2002 Location: England Posts: 18	so how come monks etc werent in the first bg, also u couldnt duel wield in bg 1 __________________ Respect me! Hate me! Fear me!!!

03-11-2002, 05:38 AM	#17
jonny bear Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: February 1, 2002 Location: England Posts: 18	Dont get me wrong i arent stil arguing that bg2 is third edition but i think i now agree with what somebody said above that some elements from third ed were added to the second edition in bg2 __________________ Respect me! Hate me! Fear me!!!

03-11-2002, 12:08 PM	#18
ispq Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: November 8, 2001 Location: San Francisco, CA, USA Posts: 29	quote: Originally posted by Holy Knight Delita: im pretty sure Barbarian, Monk, and Sorcerer are in the second edition as well. Those three classes, Barbarian, Monk, and Sorcerer, did not exist as basic classes in 2nd edition AD&D. Various kits and specialized classes found in the numerous 2nd edition AD&D supplements allowed you to play as Barbarian and Monks, and possibly even as something similar to Sorcerer. Barbarian and Monks were both classes in 1st edition AD&D, though the Sorcerer was not.

03-17-2002, 02:48 AM	#19
Lady Blue03 Xanathar Thieves Guild Join Date: January 18, 2002 Age: 38 Posts: 4,557	So tell me, i know NWN is gonna be mostly a muli-player game, so is accessing multi-player gonna be easier? i mean i never did on BG2 cause it was way too confusing. If youve played Diablo or Diablo2 multiplayer, you know how easy it is to access. So will it be easier or the same as it is now? __________________ Yep I'm still lurking!

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