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Other classes have caught up to our DPS. Have you tried the new HaT spec? It's supposed to be the best raiding spec. Armory Ippon on the US Armory site. |
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Yeah, I know about a HaT spec rogue being able to dish out a 6k dps. However it's confirmed as a bug and Blizzard might fix it. Oh what the heck, for the hell of it I'm gonna try it next week. ![]() Edit : Thanks to my fellow guildmates support, my leatherworking finaly hit 450. Yehaaa! Last edited by Kakero; 12-11-2008 at 09:02 PM. |
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Ok, I need to do some research on this, but from what the rogues in my guild tell me Kak rogues need far more hit than they did in TBC.
I'll find it out. And top dpsers as warlocks hunters and warriors in a raid. Mages are way down the list. So are rogues im afraid.
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Hunters are getting nerfed though.
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After 132 hit (5/5 precisions) for specials hit cap. Agi/AP becomes more valuable.
Check EJ forum for the new values at 80. Ultimately, use a spreadsheet to determine what's good for you. |
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Kak I don't know where your getting your numbers.
From what I can see, raiding rogues will go mutilate spec. They require 753 hit with talents. Poison hit cap is 315. 135 might be yellow hit cap, but if your aiming for that, then your DPS is going to fail. White damage is, and always has been, where you make your money. Was talking to the rogues in my guild, and they basically laughed and said they'd kick any rogue that aimed for 135 hit. All our rogues are aiming for 753.
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/slap forehead.
Please check EJ forum. With 5/5 precision. 315 is the poison cap. 132 is the special cap. 755 is the white cap. However, after 132, AGI/AP becomes more valueable. You shouldn't aim for any stat (I know I did say 132 and you are all set however, because of the point above. ![]() Like I said, check spreadsheet (purposely bolded it for you) to know what's best for you. ps. Why am I discussing these with you? Are you raiding with your rogue? Last edited by Kakero; 12-13-2008 at 08:24 AM. |
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Give link to EJ thread.
And i misunderstood a rogue, they said aim for 315 for poisons if your muti raid spec. Not white like i thought. but 135 is daft.
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Here.
http://elitistjerks.com/f78/t37183-pocket_guide_wotlk/ Patch 3.0 did change that, while 343 was the desirable hit cap pre 3.0. After patch 3.0, 235(IIRC poison cap at 70, correct me if I'm wrong) becomes more desirable. That's why sticking +5agi +5hit gem on yellow socket yield higher dps than a straight +10 hit gem. I do sometimes read that people say EJ is not always correct. However. how come I never see these people post on EJ forum trying to correct it? Edit : Hitting poison cap 315 (5/5 precision) is good. Also, I said 132 for special hit cap and you are all set is because before raiding naxx, I'm unsure if you can get 315 hit without sacrificing your dps. Which was my reply to Mem because he's not raiding naxx yet. Last edited by Kakero; 12-13-2008 at 09:29 AM. Reason: computer hang |
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