Improved Irenicus and no time stops ?

[Leslie]

Hey guys !

I finished my SOA part yesterday with my evil party:

Anti-paladin/mage
Valen
Edwin
Solaufein

played on insane and tactics mod. (imp. irenicus took me 80 minutes [img]smile.gif[/img] )

Will continue through TOB but have one question :

Has anyone finished Imp. Irenicus WITHOUT time stops ? Especially the first fight ?

I read about cavalier on Forgotten Wars forums, he eventually did it.

I was thinking about new parties and can't imagine the nightmare od an "ordinary" fighter dealing with those nightmares.

Oh, and dispel on every hit (yes, with Blackrazor [img]smile.gif[/img] ) works beautifuly.

[Xen]

Hmm.Don`t know...
You try Leslie!!I think very hard,becuase The Dragon and Wraith Of Wrath will/would be pain in the rear.
Xen [img]smile.gif[/img]

[weimer]

Imp Irenicus is my only mod so far that was explicitly designed with a "balanced party" in mind. Thus it's one of the few places in the game where you will actually feel some pain for being a solo character (normally it is actually pretty much an advantage if you know what you're doing).

You could certainly do it without Time Stop -- a mage with vecna, power, alacrity and a pro-mw scroll doesn't really need to worry about the monsters trying to get a hit or two in while she casts a bunch of spells. Heck, you can even do it without ToB HLAs (someone reported such a success).

A pure fighter would be tough, mostly because of Greed. Wand of Magic Missiles, Book of Infinite Spells (?), ... but the only "easy" way I can see to do it is to cheesily drop Sanchu on the floor before the fight starts.

[Leslie]

I wasn't really thinking of a solo char I prefer playing small parties - 3,4.
I once played with F/T (multi), M/C (Aerie) and archer (Kivan - TDD).

I beat imp. irenicus on core on first try. Heh, well, my archer did. [img]smile.gif[/img]

BTW - I think they are overpowered as soon as you have a small party to keep the enemy busy. Firkraag died in 2 rounds.

But since I know the "enemy" I try to imagine a fight with a small party of fighters and some backup mages or thieves. Cavalier or Barbarian comes to mind. And I don't want Archer - he is too good. (especially improve hasted)

And I don't want Sorcerers and their PI tricks.

Just a good fight, barely making it.

Any party suggestions ? And they should be able to beat Ascension too.

[Xen]

Hmm.Let me see....
Barbarian/Cavalier
F/T
F/M
Winie The Pooh/Honey
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Xen

[Leslie]

Originally posted by Xen: Hmm.Let me see.... Barbarian/Cavalier F/T F/M Winie The Pooh/Honey [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img] Xen

Oh forgot - no more fighter/mages. Stoneskin, PFMW, ... Too easy.

I soloed one (multiclass) and also beat imp. irenicus on core.

Hmm, Winnie might be a good choice. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Xen]

YEAH!!!Take Winie [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img] ...Irenicus will think he is quite,but then he will start lauching honey at him and Joeleth would die!MWUAHAHHA

Xen