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Old 03-09-2006, 09:51 AM   #81
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Not sure if this is the same story as Chewie posted or not, but some info here.

Morgie - I'm very impressed, I think you're the first Republican I know (apart from those living here) that actually took the 9/11 commission report seriously!

What's the CSA by the way? A google is pulling up Child Support Agency, Canadian Space Agency etc for me...
lol, by the current yardstick I'm a paleo-Con, I tend to lean much more heavily towards libertarian than Republican, but I also like voting in the Primary elections and trying to shape who will be representing me, so yeah, not really a good republican so much as a good conservative.

CSA does indeed mean Confederate States of America, one of their gripes was unrelated riders, like allocating highway funds for a state in a bill that is designed to combat child porn. It's political suicide to vote against it, but voting for it also means voting for the riders. I have no problem with riders that are at least related to the objective of the Bill, and in this case blocking the port deal seems to be at least semi-related, at least on the national security front.
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Old 03-09-2006, 02:33 PM   #82
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Dubai to give up control of U.S. ports
Deal ran into tough opposition in Senate over security concerns


WASHINGTON - A top Senate Republican says a Dubai-owned company has decided to give up its management stake in U.S. ports.

The news came from John Warner, R-Va., chairman of the powerful Armed Services Committee and a member of the Senate committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, as it became clear that allowing Dubai Ports World, a company owned by the United Arab Emirates, to take control of six U.S. port operations faced certain defeat in Congress.

Earlier, the GOP leadership delivered that assessment to President Bush in a private meeting at the White House.
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Old 03-09-2006, 03:10 PM   #83
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It's sort of sad in a way
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Old 03-09-2006, 03:20 PM   #84
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It's sort of sad in a way
But expected. Remember, we're the nation that interned Japanese during WWII. We haven't come very far since then, either.
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Old 03-09-2006, 03:28 PM   #85
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It's sort of sad in a way
But expected. Remember, we're the nation that interned Japanese during WWII. We haven't come very far since then, either. [/QUOTE]And Germans in WW1
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Old 03-09-2006, 04:31 PM   #86
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Well, we weren't much better either..we banged up our fair share of innocents. And those shifty conchies With a World War on, I guess it was a bit more understandable.
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Old 03-09-2006, 06:25 PM   #87
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According to CNN a deal was done to "compensate" DPW for any loss in revenues from managing those ports - factored in the valuation price for P&O.
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Old 03-09-2006, 07:54 PM   #88
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I think this is ridicullous, it doesn't change anything if a company is state owned or not. It's jut a regullar company with a president and all, trying to make money, except it get some extra perks and responsibilities.

What? Do you think the president of a country spend his daytime running the country, then at night to go the headquarter of the state company and run that too?

If a country decided to invade another, or just finance terorism, it could just as easily use an independant company as a state owned one. Just take a couple of billions, and hand it to bob the terrorist company owner. And for that matter, they could use a Canadian company, or an American one, a Chinese one, it doesn't matter.

So some terrorisms had money in UAE banks, big deal. I bet they could walk up to any bank in the world and deposite money. As far as I'm aware, when you open up a bank account, there isn't "If you are a terrorism or plan to use this account for terrorism, check here." On the account creation form.

2 terrorists also came from there? Guess what, there are murderers in the USA. Lots of them. Americans are obviously violent and should be shot on sight of the Canadian border, it's obvious they are a huge threat to the security of Canada.

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Old 03-09-2006, 08:17 PM   #89
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Screw the UAE and their rich dictators.

If they want to join most of the rest of the world in democracy and human rights, maybe I'll lighten up on them. Until then- screw them, whichever race they are.
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Screw the UAE and their rich dictators.

If they want to join most of the rest of the world in democracy and human rights, maybe I'll lighten up on them. Until then- screw them, whichever race they are.
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