Magic should be banned from BG2 - Page 9

Sazerac · 06-25-2002, 06:54 PM

Why are you bumping up threads from 18 months ago, and answering them like they were posted yesterday? [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img]

-Sazerac

drewal · 06-25-2002, 09:07 PM

Scratches head...

Yes. And we'll shall ban swords as well.

(a small voice in the back peeps up) and Thumb. WE SHALL BAN THUMB!

I now announce the formation of the Anti-Thumb Guild.

NO MORE THUMB! NO MORE THUMB!

Xero279 · 06-25-2002, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sazerac:
Why are you bumping up threads from 18 months ago, and answering them like they were posted yesterday? [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img]

-Sazerac

lol sorry its my fault, i looked under someones (forgot who) profile and then i looked under recent posts and i saw the title of this and decided to read it. i didnt know how old it was

Nameless One · 06-26-2002, 02:17 AM

But there is no magic in BG2 or in any CRPG for that matter, because magic is...well magical, but RPG spells are...well statistical. Whether you bludgeon you foe to death with a 2D4 Club or blast him with a 6D6 meteor, all you've done is overwhelm your opponent with statistics. And you thought that math wasn't important in school.

And magical weapons, shmeapons. Dagger, dagger +1. Oooh, that's a great magic. Add a one to all your statistics.

There just ain't no magic in them there hills.

Radek · 06-26-2002, 04:13 AM

I daresay Yorick is completely wrong. Magic does not suck. Priests can cast spells. If he cannot understand it, he can call the priest spells miracles or prayers and the priest's spellbook a holy book. How do the people in Faerun die? Is it important? Don't let us be too materialistic in the fantasy world. Bards cannot cast spells? And why not! Let us remember TES Daggerfall where ANY class was able of magic to some extent. Is it wrong? Why?
The fantasy world is different from our world and it is good that it is. Sometimes, the computer games are flamed by some mentors that they bring brutality, that they cause murders in schools and so on. When could this flaming have some substance? If we kill people with machine guns in a contemporary city in the game. If we drive cars. If we do similar things. In the other words, if the game reflects OUR world, if the monsters CAN be identified with people around us. If the monsters are serviced by means of tools that EXIST around us. Isn't it better to fight with magical weapons? Isn't it better to cast spells? I think it is. The further is the game world from our world the better.
A good game should always be a fairy tale. It should never resemble a possible episode of our life. Every fairy tale is full of magical artifacts and magical effects.

Calaethis Dragonsbane · 06-26-2002, 07:13 AM

oh yeah, lets just make this game.... oh, shall we say NON FANTASY?! magic is a part of fantasy, if u dont like it dont use it, but when ur lying on the ground bleeding, and several gobos are coming for you, well that just fine, we'll all laugh when bhaals essence goes back to its source..

bah! sorry, im not being very nice am I?

philip · 06-26-2002, 09:43 AM

playing a mage or sorcerer is cool
magic is part of the forgottten realms
if you want to fight too why not dual class
a swashbuckler with a mage with cloak/ring of protection
you can use cool spells and even
send him in for a fight(my swashbuckler/mage
lvl 10/11 had an ac -5 after a couple of chapter 2 quests)
if i want to melee combat i just use another member
of my party
but without magic bg would be boring
(many good figths are against mages, Jon is a mage
Firkraag uses magic many creatures would not
exist or be as powerfulas they are without magic)
so it shouldn't be banned

if you don't like magic just don't use it and enjoy
killing a powerful wizard

[ 06-26-2002, 09:45 AM: Message edited by: philip ]

Willard · 06-26-2002, 10:50 AM

Yorick, if every creature in BG2 that had something to do with magic died, almost everyone in the game would be dead. Every class deals with magic. EVERY class. And, if there was no magic in BG2 the only thing you could possibly be is a peasant or something. That's really fun. If there was no magic in the game, it would be too much like real life. And real life is right there, why play a game to simulate it, you know?

Sazerac · 06-26-2002, 10:55 AM

Guys, Yorick hasn't been to this forum in over a YEAR, so it's pointless addressing what he said. *sigh* PLEASE stop bumping threads that have been inactive for over 18 months. Memnoch has already warned you about this.

I'm locking this to avoid further confusion.

-Sazerac

P.S. Unlocking again so that Yorick can come in and make a rebuttal. "S"

[ 06-26-2002, 11:51 AM: Message edited by: Sazerac ]

Donut · 06-26-2002, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yorick:
.......My point is magic should be BANNED FROM BG2 yeah!

You are a sad man Yorrick. Unless you are dyslexiK of course.

06-25-2002, 06:54 PM	#81
Sazerac Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Monroe, LA Age: 61 Posts: 7,387	Why are you bumping up threads from 18 months ago, and answering them like they were posted yesterday? [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img] -Sazerac __________________ "And all my days are trances, and all my nightly dreams, Are where thy grey eye glances, and where thy footstep gleams, In what ethereal dances, by what eternal streams..."

06-25-2002, 09:07 PM	#82
drewal Drow Warrior Join Date: January 8, 2002 Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 47 Posts: 272	Scratches head... Yes. And we'll shall ban swords as well. (a small voice in the back peeps up) and Thumb. WE SHALL BAN THUMB! I now announce the formation of the Anti-Thumb Guild. NO MORE THUMB! NO MORE THUMB! __________________ This is going to be a short trip...

06-26-2002, 02:17 AM	#84
Nameless One Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: June 9, 2002 Location: Gainesville, FL Age: 51 Posts: 13	But there is no magic in BG2 or in any CRPG for that matter, because magic is...well magical, but RPG spells are...well statistical. Whether you bludgeon you foe to death with a 2D4 Club or blast him with a 6D6 meteor, all you've done is overwhelm your opponent with statistics. And you thought that math wasn't important in school. And magical weapons, shmeapons. Dagger, dagger +1. Oooh, that's a great magic. Add a one to all your statistics. There just ain't no magic in them there hills. __________________ What can change the nature of a man?<br />---------------------------------------<br />

06-26-2002, 04:13 AM	#85
Radek Red Dragon Join Date: April 3, 2001 Location: Prague, Czech Republic Posts: 1,586	I daresay Yorick is completely wrong. Magic does not suck. Priests can cast spells. If he cannot understand it, he can call the priest spells miracles or prayers and the priest's spellbook a holy book. How do the people in Faerun die? Is it important? Don't let us be too materialistic in the fantasy world. Bards cannot cast spells? And why not! Let us remember TES Daggerfall where ANY class was able of magic to some extent. Is it wrong? Why? The fantasy world is different from our world and it is good that it is. Sometimes, the computer games are flamed by some mentors that they bring brutality, that they cause murders in schools and so on. When could this flaming have some substance? If we kill people with machine guns in a contemporary city in the game. If we drive cars. If we do similar things. In the other words, if the game reflects OUR world, if the monsters CAN be identified with people around us. If the monsters are serviced by means of tools that EXIST around us. Isn't it better to fight with magical weapons? Isn't it better to cast spells? I think it is. The further is the game world from our world the better. A good game should always be a fairy tale. It should never resemble a possible episode of our life. Every fairy tale is full of magical artifacts and magical effects. __________________ My name is Demon\'s Last Day. Yes, the last one.

06-26-2002, 07:13 AM	#86
Calaethis Dragonsbane Legion Symbol Join Date: May 29, 2002 Location: Somewhere in between Age: 40 Posts: 7,029	oh yeah, lets just make this game.... oh, shall we say NON FANTASY?! magic is a part of fantasy, if u dont like it dont use it, but when ur lying on the ground bleeding, and several gobos are coming for you, well that just fine, we'll all laugh when bhaals essence goes back to its source.. bah! sorry, im not being very nice am I? __________________ Skydracgrrl: Cruelty, thy name is Cal! --- There are none so blind as those who refuse to see, none so deaf as those who refuse to hear, and none so smelly as those who refuse to bathe.

06-26-2002, 09:43 AM	#87
philip Galvatron Join Date: June 24, 2002 Location: aa Posts: 2,101	playing a mage or sorcerer is cool magic is part of the forgottten realms if you want to fight too why not dual class a swashbuckler with a mage with cloak/ring of protection you can use cool spells and even send him in for a fight(my swashbuckler/mage lvl 10/11 had an ac -5 after a couple of chapter 2 quests) if i want to melee combat i just use another member of my party but without magic bg would be boring (many good figths are against mages, Jon is a mage Firkraag uses magic many creatures would not exist or be as powerfulas they are without magic) so it shouldn't be banned if you don't like magic just don't use it and enjoy killing a powerful wizard [ 06-26-2002, 09:45 AM: Message edited by: philip ]

06-26-2002, 10:50 AM	#88
Willard Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: June 14, 2001 Location: Vermont Age: 34 Posts: 1,752	Yorick, if every creature in BG2 that had something to do with magic died, almost everyone in the game would be dead. Every class deals with magic. EVERY class. And, if there was no magic in BG2 the only thing you could possibly be is a peasant or something. That's really fun. If there was no magic in the game, it would be too much like real life. And real life is right there, why play a game to simulate it, you know? __________________

06-26-2002, 10:55 AM	#89
Sazerac Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Monroe, LA Age: 61 Posts: 7,387	Guys, Yorick hasn't been to this forum in over a YEAR, so it's pointless addressing what he said. sigh PLEASE stop bumping threads that have been inactive for over 18 months. Memnoch has already warned you about this. I'm locking this to avoid further confusion. -Sazerac P.S. Unlocking again so that Yorick can come in and make a rebuttal. "S" [ 06-26-2002, 11:51 AM: Message edited by: Sazerac ] __________________ "And all my days are trances, and all my nightly dreams, Are where thy grey eye glances, and where thy footstep gleams, In what ethereal dances, by what eternal streams..."

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