Gaza gunmen drag EU into Danish-Muslim blasphemy clash

[shamrock_uk]

Scum.

I'm almost tempted to walk through central London with a placard saying "behead Muslims" and see how far I get before I'm thrown in the clink.

I %$@~ hate double standards!

[shamrock_uk]

Well, this thread is probably in need of some 'encouraging' news.

There was a counter-march by moderate Muslims in favour of free speech in Denmark which doesn't seem to have been widely covered.

Also the Chairman of the Muslim Public Affairs Committee has just given the London demonstration a good verbal battering and said it should have been banned.

[johnny]

The bad news is, that this moderate chairman now probably needs around the clock security.

[shamrock_uk]

Embassies burn.

[johnny]

There are some forces at work behind the screens here. These cartoons were published in September 2005, and only just now the muslims are starting to riot. Someone has been traveling from one country to the next, gaining support from either religeous leaders or people in the government, using those influences to set the muslim world on fire. I think it would be in everyone's interrest to find out who's behind this, and see what can be done about it. There were also cartoons involved that weren't published by the Danish newspaper, so clearly someone has been fabricating stuff to raise tensions even more.

[ 02-04-2006, 02:01 PM: Message edited by: johnny ]

[Larry_OHF]

Originally posted by shamrock_uk: Embassies burn.

"With our blood and souls we defend you, O Prophet of God," they chanted outside the Danish building, which also houses the Swedish and Chilean missions.

The CNN version of this story points out that the Swedish and the Chileans have nothing to do with this mess, but their embassy offices burned with the others.

Their stupidity will end up creating more enemies than they bargained for.

[ 02-04-2006, 03:08 PM: Message edited by: Larry_OHF ]

[shamrock_uk]

Originally posted by johnny: There are some forces at work behind the screens here. These cartoons were published in September 2005, and only just now the muslims are starting to riot. Someone has been traveling from one country to the next, gaining support from either religeous leaders or people in the government, using those influences to set the muslim world on fire. I think it would be in everyone's interrest to find out who's behind this, and see what can be done about it. There were also cartoons involved that weren't published by the Danish newspaper, so clearly someone has been fabricating stuff to raise tensions even more.

Perhaps that's why the Jordanian newspaper published them too, so Muslims could see what they were protesting against.

I heard about alternative cartoons being used too, but had no linkies or other evidence that this was the case - does anyone have anything more concrete?

As for someone working behind the scenes...I guess it's possible, but I'm inclined to think that they're easily enough enflamed that this wouldn't be necessary.

[johnny]

Check out this site, and scroll down a bit to the part where it says that Danish Imams traveled throughout the middle east with the images, and that there suddenly were a few "bonus" images.

http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/

[ 02-04-2006, 06:54 PM: Message edited by: johnny ]

[robertthebard]

A fresh voice. Don't be too surprised, I just never really come in here. However; freedom of speech is fine, until it crosses over to assault. In this case, I don't think running around with the signs posted above constitutes freedom of speech. We are currently involved in a "War on Terror", and this is the kind of thing that we are supposed to be fighting. Let's put a democratic government in Iraq, so they can vote to continue these kinds of activities? I have a better solution. Since we are a culture of interference, let's get busy with it. This whole war has been and exercise in futility, because we have morals, and family values, and we won't blow up "innocent" people. I ask you this; Who's innocent?
I have no personal problem with Islam, wasn't even all that versed on it until recently. Certainly not versed enough to condemn it. That has changed lately. Imams that give lip service to "stopping terror", while the Qu'ran straight out tells them to massacre infidels. To me, that is the height of hypocrisy. "We only believe the parts of the book that make us look good to the West, so they won't send our camel smelling asses back to the desert" mentality. (ouch, where'd that come from?)
In my not so humble opinion, if things in the rest of the world offend them so badly, send them back where they came from, and send all the sympathizers with them. They can Jihad themselves to death, and we can go in later, and clean up the leftovers.

[Sir Degrader]

Trouble is, crap like that spills over, and quite nastily.