They're at it again...

[antryg]

Maybe the US could show everybody how unbiased and fair it is by wiping out Palestine, Israel and any country that touches those two. That way Prez Shrub could say he has ended the terrorist threat while at the same time telling Muslims that he agrees that Israel is an illegal state. If we use the missles from a Trident submarine the muslims and jews will only have to wait a couple of more centuries before the radiation level dies down enough for them to go back to killing each other over the land.

[John D Harris]

Originally posted by Timber Loftis: Just when they're making real progress toward a Palestinian state. Look, these peoples have been at each other's throats since recorded history began (q.v. the Bible). I say we simply let Israel, the clear winner (as chance would have it), wipe Palestine off the map. Neither side will have it any other way. Palestine does not WANT peace, and apparently does not WANT statehood -- it wants martyrdom. It's asked so long and so loudly for martyrdom. Well, why not let the people have what they want? Sarcasm in this thread may be a little too well hidden by the level of which I'm fed up with the Middle East situation.

Time to let the PIT BULL off the chain

[Animal]

Originally posted by MagiK: quote: Originally posted by Grendal: They need a good natural disaster...get everybody working together for a common goal. Small asteroid perhaps?

Hmmm this has merrit....lets see...if we can maneuver a small asteroid into crashing down right on the temple mount....wiping out most of the population in that part of the world. Now how do we manage this?
[/QUOTE]We could fly two shuttles up and land on the asteriod. By drilling into the centre, and dropping a nuclear explosive...wait...nope, scratch that, it only works for saving earth from and asteriod, not destroying it.

[John D Harris]

Originally posted by Timber Loftis: quote: Originally posted by MagiK: You do realize that the Israelies actually have a legal right to Israel, and as for the land they seized after the land grant by the LON and Britain it is completely understandable after the historical attacks they have suffered by by the combined might of the Arab League...not once but three times. (well Egypt did declare a peace after the second massive attack.)

They don't have a right to the three areas they seized with their preemptive attack of the Arab League in '67. Gaza, Golan, West Bank. The areas where the term "settlements" is being used to describe what they're doing are those areas that are not theirs by any legal right other than annexation -- which is no legal right. [/QUOTE]I'd have to disagree there TL. In a land where power and strength are about the only thing understood, He who has the power to take and hold, it's theirs.

[Timber Loftis]

I know what you're trying to say John D., and you have a point re: attitudes in the region. However, Israel exists only because the League and later the UN gave it land and rights to a nation, so it doesn't make sense for it to ignore the rules of the UN. Which rules state that conquest is not allowed. While this was the historical way to obtain new lands, it just ain't so anymore. Legally, that is. Of course, President Jackson (or was it Adams?) once upon a time refused to enforce a ruling by the Marshall Supreme Court, saying "Let Marshall try to enforce his ruling from the bench," and everyone (including Marshall) got the point -- the rule of law means nothing without enforcement. And, Israel has been chastised and wrist-slapped, but never enforced.

Originally posted by Timber Loftis: quote: Originally posted by MagiK: You do realize that the Israelies actually have a legal right to Israel, and as for the land they seized after the land grant by the LON and Britain it is completely understandable after the historical attacks they have suffered by by the combined might of the Arab League...not once but three times. (well Egypt did declare a peace after the second massive attack.)

They don't have a right to the three areas they seized with their preemptive attack of the Arab League in '67. Gaza, Golan, West Bank. The areas where the term "settlements" is being used to describe what they're doing are those areas that are not theirs by any legal right other than annexation -- which is no legal right. [/QUOTE]

TL Look at what I said please [img]smile.gif[/img] I said they have the right to the land they were given by the LON and UK. I said that the land they seized during the attacks by the Arab League is "UNDERSTANDABLE" Any nation that has suffered major incursions by it's neighbors on multiple occasions will "Understandably" want to put a buffer zone between "them and us".....I know you are being worked hard now, but you are usually better at attention to detail [img]smile.gif[/img]

Originally posted by antryg: Maybe the US could show everybody how unbiased and fair it is by wiping out Palestine, Israel and any country that touches those two. That way Prez Shrub could say he has ended the terrorist threat while at the same time telling Muslims that he agrees that Israel is an illegal state. If we use the missles from a Trident submarine the muslims and jews will only have to wait a couple of more centuries before the radiation level dies down enough for them to go back to killing each other over the land.

Well...if he used ALL the missiles on that Trident sub, there won't be any of them left to start a fight again later....of course, we would have to get some specialist drilling equipment to drill through the hard glassy surface to get at the oil that would be left behind....

[Azred]

I'm not surprised; I've said this before (it's the 5th post down), as have other people.

The two sides don't want to coexist, so why don't they just admit it? Let them fight it out to the bitter end and the last one standing wins. Since that is all they understand and they obviously choose not to try any other way then I say let them have what they want.

[Skunk]

I agree completely with you. No matter how hard the US or any other good willed country attempts to get the countries to cooperate, in the end only those 2 can really do anything to end the violence.

Look, if we can pull Saddam out of Kuwait, we can sure as hell pull Israel out of Palestine. If we can partition and keep apart Turkish and Greek cypriots, we can darn well do the same with Israel and Palestine.

Originally posted by Skunk: quote: I agree completely with you. No matter how hard the US or any other good willed country attempts to get the countries to cooperate, in the end only those 2 can really do anything to end the violence.

Look, if we can pull Saddam out of Kuwait, we can sure as hell pull Israel out of Palestine. If we can partition and keep apart Turkish and Greek cypriots, we can darn well do the same with Israel and Palestine. [/QUOTE]
To quote some other people...thats none of our business..it's between Israel and the Palistinians. I think Azred has it right...let them go at it and the last one standing wins...of course since Israel has pretty much kicked butt and taken names when fighting the Arab League...it wouldn't be much of a fight against the Palistinians.