Magic should be banned from BG2

[Zoratorak]

hmmm... oh yeah... before i forget... Hey Memnoch,i have an "tito" living close in Sydney Harbor (if that is what you call it in the picture)... and it must be nice to live so near there... i saw the fireworks in cnn ... it made me wish i wuz there at that moment... (sniff) (it wuz during the new year)... man it was so beautiful and spectacular to watch those fireworks and have a cool party with friends and everything... heck it rained here in my place for the new year but for some reason it stopped when it reached midnight... and thats the time we did our fireworks... which looks like "watusi" compared to your own fireworks... but a new year is a new year and a HAPPY BELATED NEW MILLENIUM NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU....

Hmmmm..... Maybe Im mistaken, but player-characters can't use the spell "Dimension Door", can they? Well, I think that is a bunch of
Bull pucky, I mean, these idiot cowled wizards can just cast a spell
and *POOF* there gone, they can get away from any fight... My point
is that the BG team should have included a "Dimension Door" spell
with BG2:SoA, The only problem is that, where would you be "teleported"
to?

P.S: I have finaly reached the xp cap without cheating and I am glad
I didn't cheat, I love the feeling when you blow apart a group of trolls
with a delayed blast firball.. all the pieces... so beuatiful...
I think, notice the key-word, think, I could face up to any other magic
user and win, im about 95% sure of that. So dont go and start an argument
about whos the strongest magic user, its just a thought.


- Elrond

Hmmmm..... Maybe Im mistaken, but player-characters can't use the spell "Dimension Door", can they? Well, I think that is a bunch of
Bull pucky, I mean, these idiot cowled wizards can just cast a spell
and *POOF* there gone, they can get away from any fight... My point
is that the BG team should have included a "Dimension Door" spell
with BG2:SoA, The only problem is that, where would you be "teleported"
to?

P.S: I have finaly reached the xp cap without cheating and I am glad
I didn't cheat, I love the feeling when you blow apart a group of trolls
with a delayed blast fireball.. all the pieces... so beuatiful...
I think, notice the key-word, think, I could face up to any other magic
user and win, im about 95% sure of that. As for fighters.. well.. eh.. I could destroy a Middle class (50% of full power), and a semi-pro (75-85% of full power, as for 86-100%, there is a slight chance that I could kill them, but I wouldn't count on it. So dont go and start an argument
about whos the strongest magic user, or fighter, its just a thought.


- Elrond

[Memnoch]

Zor, my sister and my folks spent nye in manila making paputok. the fun is you can set them off yourself!

taga saan ka sa atin?

[Zoratorak]

masaya naman dito noong new year (err sorry if others cant understand this language its filipino) taga Quezon City ako... naiingit lang ako sa mga paputok niyo...

ok talaga pumunta ang ate and ang pamilya mo dito...
errr.. waita minute you mean in Austrailia you cant light up your own fireworks?? heh at least i was able to light up a few before we ran out...

?



My magical bunny freind..

( V )
( ºº )
(")¿(")

( V )
( ºº )
(")¿(")

( V )
( ºº )
(")¿(")

( V )
( ºº )
(")¿(")

( V )
( ºº )
(")¿(")

[Rikard T'Aranaxz]

How can i explain it to such a simpleton
hm
how do you know life excist you just do
how do you know that you can really think you just do
How do you know magic excist you just do

there is magic
a wave
magic alternates that waave doing thing that seem impossble
it's hard to explain
to a simpleton
as i said

First, I would just like to address the fact that you claim that bards should not be magic users. For one you obviously do not know the origin of bards. Bards were druids in ancient Ireland that were feared for there ability to charm and cast magic at simple sound of their voices set on high in glorious song. So you see magic has been with the bards since the beginning and I suggest you do not make such an argument again unless you know the facts to back it up.

Nextly, the fact that you say priests shouldn't be able to use magic... Well what other use would a priest be? If they had no magical abilities then there disadvantages would obviously outweigh any non-magical advantages they might have. The magic that a priest recieves come from the deity he/she serves. As so do druids though instead of a deity their power comes from the earth itself. You could call them miracles if you wish. And the reason why not everyone in Faerun goes to the temple and gets raised is because many can't afford it obviously. And in some case a ressurection is not possible. For example any time a body is completely destroyed.

As for you complaining about it being 'believable', this is a fantasy game. What do you expect? You fool. Another thing if you disagree with magic and if you feel it is evil and wish to participate in no game in which magic is repesented, then I suggest you don't buy anymore fantasy games because I don't know of any that don't have some portrayal of magic. And finally, It is no doubt that while playing this game your warrior (or whatever you used) at some point used magic to your benefit, whether it be in a potion, weapon or armor. And if you did not use any of these items then I don't see how you could have gotten succesfully through the entire game.

everyone go to My rant against Rikard and read my and Holy Mage Wah's arguments --- guarented to bring a laugh!

[Yorick]

Hey Rikard,
On the matter of existence, and at the risk of sounding like a total naval gazing w----r, we can't even proove life exists, all an individual can proove is that that particular individual exists. (I think, therefore I am)

Hey Irishman,
Yes I am very familiar with Celtic history, both legendary and factual, I am also familiar with the Ad&d players handbook which infers that while they contain some similarities, Bards are NOT modelled completely on Celtic Bards.

In Ad&d they are Rogues, not second or third in societies heirachy as in Celtic life. As I stated in the first point, through history magic tends to be ascribed to anything we can't understand. How do three notes, or sound waves played in unison invoke feelings of sadness? MAGIC! How did he pull the rabbit out of his hat? MAGIC! How did the Bards after 20 years of studying oral history and committing it to memory manage to capture and entrance audiences with their musical prowess, mastery of performance and storytelling wizardry do so? MAGIC!

Re. charming animals, well even snake charmers can 'charm' an animal, and when I sing my mates little dog goes crazy. Starts jumping up and down in a happy exited manner and won't leave me alone. MAGIC??

On the matter of priests, well what do you think their value would be? Whether miraculous healings occur or not, the power of the mind in relation to the body's restoration is so vitally linked. Priests and modern day ministers play a vital role in someone's journey to recovery by focussing on that persons mind and spirit rather than just trying to kill a virus.

On the matter of the game, completion would possibly be impossible without magic because magic is intrinsically tied to the game world and game plot, not because it's impossible to complete a role playing game magicless. Magic in the game is also a way of simplifying complex and varied roles particular skills have in life.........

BUT IT SUX AND SHOULD BE BANNED YEAH!!!!

__________________________________________________ ______________________
-The Devils Advocate-




Lastly Irishman, before you get too upset and start flaming me again, read how I've been signing this thread's posts and then go and read 'I hate harpers and druids' by angry lil'man and you'll understand what I'm doing. Though many a true word is said in jest, humour is the spice of life.

I'm after you lil'man. I want 70+ replies too!...... But where are you buddy?