Magic should be banned from BG2

[Yorick]

Bloody hell! I double posted! Sorry about that. I knew as soon as I pressed resend instead of cancel when I timed out that I should've pressed the other button.
Did anyone else have difficulties?

You should come to Oz Moiraine! Did you ever read a reply of mine to one of the threads lost in the ether about Australia and its diverse beauty and danger. Bummer it's lost as I spent a bit of time on that and now it's gone.

[Moiraine]

Yes, I remember the thread you speak of, and I remember thinking 'Wow ! What can I possibly answer to that ?' So I let pass several days, and then the thread went away, and I never answered.
(Another thought popping out was 'What the hell is an octopus ?!?')

And maybe your post is not lost : As I told you, when I connect from home, I get thrown out so often that I remember having saved several posts on my computer in text files. I'll check tonight if you post is in one of them.

And, Memnoch, I live in the country near Grenoble (SE of France, in the middle of the mountain range called the Alps). 3 H by train to Paris.

We had a beautiful Christmas with snow all around. How can you guys spend Christmas in Summer ?

[Yorick]

Went to a beach on christmas day with family. Beeuuudaaful.

An octopus is an eight legged ocean dwelling mollusc related to the squid. They vary in size have 'clingers' on the tentacles or legs, and the blue ringed variey I spoke of (blue bands on the legs) can be fatal.

Hey, I've been watching the history channel on cable and watched an interesting show about Venezia and how it's sinking! Now I'm watching about the Ayatollah Khomenii of Iran. Fascinating, but I preferred the beauty of Venice.

Anyway the funniest thing is when it's really hot round christmas yet you'll see Santa decked out for the cold weather - boots, coat and hat.

[Rikard T'Aranaxz]

What the ■■■■

Who said magic only excist in fantasy worlds?

Magic serounds you even now
we chose to forget it
becoz it would disturb the wave

And

YEAHH!!! You tell him Rikard.

What the hell is a game without magic?

Fancy picking your Dagger + 1 at Firkraag's arse till he screams "nooooooo don't kill me Mr Fighter"?

And speaking of weapons, what about those enchanted ones? Are you saying that we should have a game with only NORMAL WEAPONS such as plain old axes and swords??!!!
BORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRING!!!

[Rikard T'Aranaxz]

what classes would be left if there would be no magic

lets see
a fighter
and a thief

that should be nice

and how about monsters
no monsters are left either

yeah let's fight that creature that does not excist with our swords which have no magic
that would be fun

[Yorick]

Ok, Zor's argument left me with no reply, so comprehensive was the response, but I can respond to these latest couple of replies....... Hooharharhar (picture maniac laughing evilly)

First of all a +1 dagger is still magic so I would even advocate that to kill a dragon - which shouldn't exist in the game anyway. The Komodo is the closest thing that resembles such a ridiculously fanciful being, and you don't need a magic sword to kill it!

And yeah, what's wrong with only having fighters and thieves, isn't 'Thief - The Metal Age' about just having a thief. As Moraine stated why have some rules following reality and others not! For a really believable scenario magic should be BANNED! Everything's magical because that's the only way to beat magical problems, if no magic existed there would still be problems, but also solutions which are more realistic. I doubt it would be boring Wah - life isn't. And Rikard does magic really exist? It seems through history anything that can't be explained or properly understood is.... 'MAGICAL'.

Let's look at fortune tellers. Any nob could write a star-sign guide. Read one believing yourself to be an aquarius and it'll apply to you. Read one believe yourself to be Boneheadtaurus and it'll apply to you. If those guys could REALLY tell the future, why don't they put bets on Sporting achievements and make a killing instead of sitting in a cramped little shop.

Even say that modern witchcraft/wicca actually works, it's nothing like what happens in BG2. Who summons Ogres or Flints to hack people to death? Who runs around at double speed?
Unless modern day alchemists are those who create performance enhancing drugs it's entirely unbelievable.

Here's a funny story. I had a mate who had some friends who were into the 'Power' of a spirit because unseen it could open a door or turn off a light. And his response was: Big deal, even I can open a door or turn off a light!

(Seriously though this point of mine has nothing to do with whether it exists in the real world or not, that's actually a very delicate and serious subject and if not for the sake of humor I would not have brought it up.)

My point is magic should be BANNED FROM BG2 yeah!

(Mages)

(Druids)

(Clerics)

(any other candy-arsed loser that can't rely on their own power to fight their battles and need a magic 'crutch')

-The Devils Advocate-

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How does this compare to angry lil'man?

Heh. Maybe they'll make a game where the objective is to land a job, manage to keep it, and fend repo men away from your apartment with a cricket bat. On the other hand, perhaps we'll end up with one where people have purple skin and green hair. Everyone could live underwater and walk around on their hands. You'd have to say 'goodbye' when you meet someone and 'hello' when they leave (or would it be 'badbye'?).

bah.. without magic in game there would not be even this forum. Play "thief2" if you don't like magic. Besides, bards should have level 7, 8 and9 spells also!

-hobs-

[Zoratorak]

hmm... i really want to answer your post Yorick but it seems only just as well as proper for Rickard and Holy Magi Wah to defend thier own logic... i will watch and listen to the arguments... ( i believe in the quote "you messed it up, you mop it up"

oh yeah if you guys need any of my help "just ask" =)

now who can challenge my arguments... hmmm why not me...lets see now... err.. ahh... gee... i hope im dont sound like bragging but my arguments does not leave any weak points ... and i cant seem to even answer my own argument... hehe

anyone????