AHH!! Quick! Look what I just found! A pic of Smeagol in Return of the King! - Page 2

Dreamer128 · 12-30-2002, 07:40 AM

Smeagol is... my mother in law?!

andrewas · 12-30-2002, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nanobyte:
Oh dear. I know Samwise turns out to be a ringbearer as well, but don't tell me Frodo kills him (I know you're not saying this directly, but they do share a connection)

Smeagol was also a ring bearer for a long time. He killed his friend when he found the ring. Its all in the books.

And he does look like Grima in that pic.

SomeGuy · 12-30-2002, 03:07 PM

Hehe.This reminds me of the split personality scene from Two Towers.(very funny) LOL. He does look like that freak wormtongue

Bardan the Slayer · 12-30-2002, 06:36 PM

Exxon is right. If i remember, at one point, Gandalf actually describes Smeagol as coming "from a people not too unlike [Frodo] in appearance.

He wasn't a hobbit, but was something similar.

*scans The Hobbit for clues

Bruce The Aussie · 12-30-2002, 06:50 PM

in one part of either LotR or the hobbit (can't remmember). it calls gollum "one of the river folk" if thats a clue as to what he was.

[ 12-30-2002, 06:59 PM: Message edited by: Bruce The Aussie ]

andrewas · 12-30-2002, 07:30 PM

It has to be in LoTR, probly fellowship, because Gollum's past isnt explained in The Hobbit. Remember, when the hobbit was written, the rings only power was invisbility, and Gollum was just a mysterious creature. The ring's true power and history, including Gollum were not revealed until later.

dark soul · 12-30-2002, 07:35 PM

yea that pic does really look like wormtongue......maybe its the same actor just playin a different char

Atrayu · 12-30-2002, 08:12 PM

Did Smeagol change that much from almost being tortured to death I wonder.? Strange but cool. Poor thing.- Atrayu

Tancred · 12-30-2002, 08:22 PM

Smeagol; one of the 'River Folk' - or the Stoors. The Stoor clan is one of the three original Hobbit 'clans'; Stoors, Fallowhides and Harfoots. The Stoors are the ancestors of, for example, the Brandybuck family (note the Brandybucks have an uncommon affinity with boats). It is recorded that some Stoors - living nearby Rivendell - fled south and west when the elven fortress was attacked during the wars of Angmar vs. Arnor (the Witch-King stirring up trouble again), and that some of these hobbit-like folk settled over the mountains, upon the Gladden Fields, north of Lorien (the site of Isildur's death). Smeagol must have been one of these.

The picture is, indeed, Smeagol and his friend Deagol, boating. That I know. I thought this was edited footage from Two Towers; now, I'm not so sure.

Tancred

Sir Goulum · 12-30-2002, 09:59 PM

That is a stricking image of Mr. Wormtounge! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

12-30-2002, 03:07 PM	#13
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12-30-2002, 06:36 PM	#14
Bardan the Slayer Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: August 16, 2002 Location: Newcastle, England Age: 46 Posts: 699	Exxon is right. If i remember, at one point, Gandalf actually describes Smeagol as coming "from a people not too unlike [Frodo] in appearance. He wasn't a hobbit, but was something similar. scans The Hobbit for clues __________________ <br />[url]\"http://www.the-silver-river.com\" target=\"_blank\">Admin and Co-Owner of The Silver River!</a><br />[url]\"http://www.the-silver-river.com/Photo%20Album/Reeka.html\" target=\"_blank\">SMNOOOOOOCH!*</a> You know who it\'s meant for <img border=\"0\" title=\"\" alt=\"[Wink]\" src=\"wink.gif\" />

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Bruce The Aussie Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: March 2, 2001 Location: Chaotica (london,england) Age: 38 Posts: 1,798	in one part of either LotR or the hobbit (can't remmember). it calls gollum "one of the river folk" if thats a clue as to what he was. [ 12-30-2002, 06:59 PM: Message edited by: Bruce The Aussie ] __________________ [img]\"http://members.aol.com/lasttrueprincess/images/bruce.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br />Have a nice day <img border=\"0\" title=\"\" alt=\"[Big Grin]\" src=\"biggrin.gif\" /> <br />cloudkingdom.co.uk<br />\"be calm, be happy, be stoned\"<br />The person currently speaking is(tick appropriate): Me/My inner child/the voices in my head/my inner demons

12-30-2002, 07:30 PM	#16
andrewas Harper Join Date: October 2, 2001 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Age: 43 Posts: 4,774	It has to be in LoTR, probly fellowship, because Gollum's past isnt explained in The Hobbit. Remember, when the hobbit was written, the rings only power was invisbility, and Gollum was just a mysterious creature. The ring's true power and history, including Gollum were not revealed until later. __________________ [img]\"http://www.sighost.us/members/Zvijer/andrewas.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

12-30-2002, 08:22 PM	#19
Tancred White Dragon Join Date: April 1, 2001 Location: UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,893	Smeagol; one of the 'River Folk' - or the Stoors. The Stoor clan is one of the three original Hobbit 'clans'; Stoors, Fallowhides and Harfoots. The Stoors are the ancestors of, for example, the Brandybuck family (note the Brandybucks have an uncommon affinity with boats). It is recorded that some Stoors - living nearby Rivendell - fled south and west when the elven fortress was attacked during the wars of Angmar vs. Arnor (the Witch-King stirring up trouble again), and that some of these hobbit-like folk settled over the mountains, upon the Gladden Fields, north of Lorien (the site of Isildur's death). Smeagol must have been one of these. The picture is, indeed, Smeagol and his friend Deagol, boating. That I know. I thought this was edited footage from Two Towers; now, I'm not so sure. Tancred __________________ \"HELP! I\'ve superglued myself to a flaming bowling ball!\"

12-30-2002, 07:40 AM	#11
Dreamer128 Dracolisk Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Europe Age: 40 Posts: 6,136	Smeagol is... my mother in law?!

12-30-2002, 07:35 PM	#17
dark soul The Magister Join Date: November 28, 2002 Location: USA Age: 36 Posts: 119	yea that pic does really look like wormtongue......maybe its the same actor just playin a different char

12-30-2002, 08:12 PM	#18
Atrayu The Magister Join Date: June 18, 2002 Location: My sunny terrace Age: 45 Posts: 110	Did Smeagol change that much from almost being tortured to death I wonder.? Strange but cool. Poor thing.- Atrayu

12-30-2002, 09:59 PM	#20
Sir Goulum John Locke Join Date: February 7, 2002 Location: Edmonton, Canada Age: 36 Posts: 8,985	That is a stricking image of Mr. Wormtounge! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

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