Spirited Away

[uss]

Originally posted by Melusine: I usually dislike (and that's putting it very mildly) the sort of anime tripe that little teenage fanboys get off on,

Eh? [img]graemlins/stunned.gif[/img] Please specify.

Know that Pokemon, Digimon and such shouldn't be counted as Anime. I would really like it if you, and of course other people, would see Anime in it's true glory. The TV series Evangelion(Symbolism, Christianism, philosophy, in-depthness), Cowboy Bebop(Action, jazz, comedy, sci-fi), Trigun(Action, comedy, drama, post-apocalyptic) and Hellsing(Thriller, horror) come to mind. Almost all movies by genius Hayao Miyazaki are worth seeing. Ranma 1/2 is great for some laughs. And of course martial arts/fantasy anime for those who prefer it, namely Rurouni Kenshin, Inuyasha and such.

In case of Evangelion(26 episodes + 2 movies) and Trigun(26 episodes), make sure you watch all of it. In fact, the very first episodes of Trigun seemed like BS to me. Episode after episode, the show went more and more good. In the end, it was brilliant.

I much prefer subtitled Japanese Anime to dubtitled English, because dubtitled versions mostly do something wrong - especially in comedy, extra-especially when dubbing a schoolgirl's voice to English.

In my opinion, Anime is a beautiful, but hidden, category. The originality and perfection it holds is something I prefer to western television. There are exceptions, of course, but few .

[Epona]

Originally posted by uss: I would really like it if you, and of course other people, would see Anime in it's true glory.

Why particularly? We all have different tastes, and that variety is one of the things that makes the world a vibrant and interesting place to live. If we all liked the same thing it would be boring. I don't expect everyone to like German expressionist films or the French Arthouse movement, and they are 2 of my favourite genres.

I have tried some anime, and didn't like it. It was just not my bag. That doesn't mean that I need my eyes opened to the glory of anime, it's just that I like other things!

[uss]

Originally posted by Epona: Why particularly? We all have different tastes, and that variety is one of the things that makes the world a vibrant and interesting place to live. If we all liked the same thing it would be boring. I don't expect everyone to like German expressionist films or the French Arthouse movement, and they are 2 of my favourite genres. I have tried some anime, and didn't like it. It was just not my bag. That doesn't mean that I need my eyes opened to the glory of anime, it's just that I like other things!

I know. I know that it would be boring if by some strange twist of fate, everyone in the whole world would love Anime. This post I made will reach about 1/100 to 1/1000 or so of Ironworks people. I'm certainly not implying that the whole world should love it, I just like it if Ironworks people would know what it is - That all Anime isn't Pokemon. Prejudice isn't a good thing.

[Epona]

I replied in the way I did because I certainly do not think that anime is Pokemon, and I'm pretty certain that Melusine doesn't think that either, that is your assumption.

In terms of teenage boys I certainly didn't read it that she meant anything like that - I know several young men (not all teenagers either) who are so into anime that it is difficult to have a discussion with them about anything else. I don't think it's healthy to be that single-mindedly obsessive about any subject or interest, and I'm pretty sure it was that sort of thing she was referring to (which pisses me off too) - not the Pokemon kiddies. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[uss]

Originally posted by Epona: I replied in the way I did because I certainly do not think that anime is Pokemon, and I'm pretty certain that Melusine doesn't think that either, that is your assumption. In terms of teenage boys I certainly didn't read it that she meant anything like that - I know several young men (not all teenagers either) who are so into anime that it is difficult to have a discussion with them about anything else. I don't think it's healthy to be that single-mindedly obsessive about any subject or interest, and I'm pretty sure it was that sort of thing she was referring to (which pisses me off too) - not the Pokemon kiddies. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Yeah, now that you mention it, it's very likely she didn't mean it like that. That part was meant rather to people who pass by this topic [img]smile.gif[/img]

What got me angry in the first place was this: http://www.petitiononline.com/cutiepie/petition.html
He.... Wait, LOL, I just found out that the creator of the petition has the word Neko(Japanese for cat) in his email - it's all a joke

I have to admit that I might have an Anime obsession, and I'm a teenager, but knowing that I have had a computer-gaming obsession for quite some time, and that I'd play games instead of watching Anime, were I not introduced to it, it might affect me well. Besides, all the Anime I watch, I watch with my brother, so we talk a lot about what happened in that last episode and whatnot - and I think that alone makes it better than a very-very personal obsession, since I am not watching it alone in a dark room or anything.


Thank you for your comments on the matter, Epona [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Arnabas]

I liked this movie quite a bit, but then again, I usually like anything by Miyazaki. Everyone seems to like Princess Mononoke, but I preferred Nausicaa. I actually thought he ripped himself off a bit with Princess Mononoke. It had a number of similarities to Nausicaa, but Nausicaa was better...
Also liked My Neighbour Totoro...
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[Zuvio]

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Excel Saga and to a lesser degree, Puni Puni Poemi. THat''s what I'm talking about!!! Although Puni is a little too ackward for my taste, with all the girly stuff and so on.
Akira is still my No.1 flick, must have watched it over a dozen times. And all Anime HAS TO BE subbed! Not DUBBED! Dub = evil! Ieuw, stay away, it hurts! It hurts! Like dutch dubbed cartoons, it feels like dying from the inside.... [img]graemlins/1puke.gif[/img]
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[uss]

Originally posted by Arnabas: I liked this movie quite a bit, but then again, I usually like anything by Miyazaki. Everyone seems to like Princess Mononoke, but I preferred Nausicaa. I actually thought he ripped himself off a bit with Princess Mononoke. It had a number of similarities to Nausicaa, but Nausicaa was better... Also liked My Neighbour Totoro... [img]smile.gif[/img]

I agree that he ripped himself off a bit with that. Actually, it seems to me like very few have seen Nausicaä, whereas Mononoke is quite mainstream. Must be because Mononoke-Hime was made in 1996 and Nausicaä was made in.. 1985 or something. I don't know which I like more.. But both of them were great.


Some more about Miyazaki: While Disney movies are all practically the same mainstream rubbish, Miyazaki leaves these interesting side-notes/side-quests that leave you thinking for a while but mean nothing in the end. They're sometimes difficult to find but add a lot to the movie, in my opinion.
For example:
In My Neighbour Totoro, the younger of the sisters rushes to follow the older one, but gets left behind, and eventually lost. Then it shows about a minute of running around(not altogether) and shouting her sister's name, with her getting more and more frightened. After that minuter or so worth of time, she sees her sister and is relieved. The movie continues.
That was such a childhood reminder, and I'm quite sure that's why Miyazaki put it in there.

My Neighbour Totoro is by far the most influencing child-movie I've seen. Many things in that movie created a very familiar enviroment, as if I've gone through similar hardships / had similar emotions. That made me think about how funny it is that while I live in a totally different place in the world, childhood emotions are still the same.

Miya-baby is a genius [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

[Ithiopathanologist]

I firstly would like to say is that this was an excellent film but very different like some said it was the surrealness that made it such a beautiful film. Some people argue how the story wasn't very good. But these people don't realise that its was the journey the story of that was important not the ending.

All so Princess Mononoke is an excellent anime it along with Laputa are my favourite.

Pom Poko, Porco Rosso and My neighbour Totoro are really heart warming and funny storys from studio Ghibli.Kiki isn't a bad one either. but the point is anime is something that will defiantly outclass American/Western cartoon.

[GokuZool]

Spirited Away - one of my favourite animes of all time. The special edition 2-disc DVD is lying amongst my anime collection.

I saw it last year at the cinema (with subtitles - how can you watch an anime dubbed!?) and was blown away. The animation, the story - the bizzare, yet interesting creatures; the whole concept was brilliant.

Highly recommended! [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

[ 01-15-2004, 06:41 AM: Message edited by: GokuZool ]