Balor difficulties

[Raistlin Majere]

ok, i got it the wrong way around. i checked at this thread, and found out that the baatezu are devils, meaning their the lawful sort, while the Tanarri are demons, making them chaotic. the baatezu inhabit the nine layers of hell, while the tanarri inhabit the, not sure how many but i think 3 or 4, layers of the abyss. you can actually figure this out if you have read the drizzt novels or if you read the dialogue of drizzt's company in bg2. Wulfgar is tortured by the True Tanarri Errtu, a balor, and then Bruenor says something like "ill send you to the abyss", and then Wulfgar answers, "ive been there, nothing special". from that we can find out that at least balors, who happen to be Tanarri, live in the abyss, meaning all Tanarri live in the abyss, because they would be killed in the nine hells, making them the chaotic demons everyone fears. there, that should shed some light into the basics of the inhabitants of the underworld.

only one question remains however, how can there be four demons with irenicus, wouldnt it be smarter to have four devils(baatezu) with him, since we are in THE NINE HELLS for gods sake. and further, how can a balor look like a pit fiend? is the reason to that so the glabrezu wont look excatly like the balor would? wheres the point in that, as the glabrezu isnt supposed to even look like that!

[ 01-28-2003, 08:41 AM: Message edited by: Raistlin Majere ]

[SixOfSpades]

Originally posted by Jatelka: So: I have lots of +3 weapons, and my characters are free-actioned (to thwart that annoying "hold" thing) I'm whacking on Balor with everything I got. but I haven't caused a SINGLE HP of damage. What am I doing wrong?

From what I can tell, nothing. You need +3 weapons or better to hit him with(Jerrod's Mace will NOT work), you need some form of Free Action to ward off his Paralytic Gaze, you need some sort of Protection from Fear, and he's still a formidable opponent. What surprises me is that you say you're not doing ANY damage to him. He doesn't Regenerate, and I'm assuming you're not trying to Tank him with your Mages.....does he seem to be immune to your weapons, or do your guys simply have crappy THAC0?

[Baros]

Or is Baalor a type of ale? My own personal demon at least.

[Raistlin Majere]

(Jerrod's Mace will NOT work)

Isnt this mace considered a +5 weapon against Demons/Devils? dont know, just got the bonus merchant mod. Strange thing is, i had Deidre before that, but not Joluv. Any specific reason for this?

[Jim]

Originally posted by Raistlin Majere: quote: (Jerrod's Mace will NOT work)

Isnt this mace considered a +5 weapon against Demons/Devils? dont know, just got the bonus merchant mod. Strange thing is, i had Deidre before that, but not Joluv. Any specific reason for this?[/QUOTE]Ahh, the infamous confusion between enchantment to hit and THAC0/damage bonuses. The enchantment of the weapon doesn't necessarily have anything to do with its combat bonuses (e.g. a +3 weapon doesn't have to give a +3 bonus to hit and damage). Jerrod's Mace is a +2 enchanted weapon, that provides a bonus to hit and damage against demon kin. The enchantment of a weapon (AFAIK) is always constant, and will not change depending on the enemy being engaged. Daystar is another example of this, it enchantment always being 2, but granting an additional +2 to hit and damage against evil creatures.

Jerrod's mace is dumb though! A weapon specifically designed to beat the bejesus out of demons, but it can't destroy the Balor. They should have left the combat bonuses the same but made the overall enchantment +5 to get around this.

About the merchants, you would have had Diedrie after installing ToB (or is it after an official ToB patch?) but not Joluv. He is exclusive to the collectors edition/bonus merchants patch only.

[Raistlin Majere]

Ouki douki, Jim. Thnx for clearing it up [img]smile.gif[/img] .

[Jim]

Originally posted by Raistlin Majere: Ouki douki, Jim. Thnx for clearing it up [img]smile.gif[/img] .

No worries [img]smile.gif[/img]