Early game invincibility to magic or undead cheese ? *spoiler?*

[White Lancer]

What is wrong with these scrolls? PFM can be bypassed by just running over and beating the snot out of you, no stoneskins while PFM is active. PFU should protect you from Liches IMHO, are Liches not undead? Personally i don't see the need for these scrolls, but they are not really cheese. They are made cheese when you use project image/simulacrum to cast them again and again and again and... you get the picture.

[Alson]

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern: Tragically, this is not true. Liches are still helpless against it.

Huh? Are you sure? Are you playing with the newest version?
I heard that they use Remove Magic to cancal the PfU scrolls, and a special Teleport Field spell that will teleport you right into a bunch of Inc Clouds...

[Dundee Slaytern]

Originally posted by Alson: Huh? Are you sure? Are you playing with the newest version? I heard that they use Remove Magic to cancal the PfU scrolls, and a special Teleport Field spell that will teleport you right into a bunch of Inc Clouds...

The Remove Magic only has a 50% chance of succeeding, unless you are fighting them with a low-level party. Spell Immunity:Abjuration renders that tactic impotent. The TF spell is irritating... but use ranged weapons and tralalalala. IC is rendered impotent by Fire Resistance.

"Heal me, heal me, oh Gods yes heal me you dumb old Lich!"

[philip]

Originally posted by White Lancer: What is wrong with these scrolls? PFM can be bypassed by just running over and beating the snot out of you,

Some enemies won't go melee, Kangaxx and'I think PFM scrolls are most used in this fight and maybe TR but I'm not sure since I haven't beaten those (guess I'll do it this game after the Underdark so Kelsey and my dualclass FT are higher level, xpcap removed since I haven't ToB yet)

[Alson]

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern: The Remove Magic only has a 50% chance of succeeding, unless you are fighting them with a low-level party. Spell Immunity:Abjuration renders that tactic impotent. The TF spell is irritating... but use ranged weapons and tralalalala. IC is rendered impotent by Fire Resistance.

Allow me to quote a fellow BG2 gamer of mine, who once wrote:

Technically I can make a script that runs into tens of thousands of lines to cater for every possible scenerio, but most of the time, there is no need to, because not all are masters of cheese.

And:

I am just not going to make it a walk in the park for him/her. Not everybody is a Godlike-player in BG2, the vast majority are only average when it comes to skills.

Now imagine Westley Weimer saying it to you.

[Dundee Slaytern]

Originally posted by Alson: Allow me to quote a fellow BG2 gamer of mine, who once wrote: Technically I can make a script that runs into tens of thousands of lines to cater for every possible scenerio, but most of the time, there is no need to, because not all are masters of cheese. And: I am just not going to make it a walk in the park for him/her. Not everybody is a Godlike-player in BG2, the vast majority are only average when it comes to skills. Now imagine Westley Weimer saying it to you.

Oooo... touche, but I get your point. I suppose... objectively, the Liches are smarter. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Alson]

I'm sorry if i sounded offensive a bit - sometimes i'm too cynical.
But you know i said it in a friendly way, right? [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Dundee Slaytern]

Originally posted by Alson: I'm sorry if i sounded offensive a bit - sometimes i'm too cynical. But you know i said it in a friendly way, right? [img]smile.gif[/img]

Pfft... I thought the winking smiley would have indicated my mood already. [img]smile.gif[/img] No offense taken at all. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Alson]

I like people who doesn't take cynical comments too seriously. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I though the winking smiley was a "Getting personal, are we?" kind of message.