American Captive Beheaded in Iraq

[Timber Loftis]

Felix, I was thinking the same thing. I don't see how one could cut a head off with a knife and not get blood all over the walls, the floor, themselves, their friends, the tree outside, etc. But, I haven't seen anyone question the validity of the tape.

[johnny]

Originally posted by Timber Loftis: Felix, I was thinking the same thing. I don't see how one could cut a head off with a knife and not get blood all over the walls, the floor, themselves, their friends, the tree outside, etc. But, I haven't seen anyone question the validity of the tape.

Agreed, the footage is questionable, at first i thought the person sitting on the floor wasn't even real, it's all very vague.

[Stratos]

Well, if you look closely there was a puddle of blood on the floor.

Why would the room and everyone in it get covered in blood? It's not like they bathed in it and there weren't exactly a fountain of blood spraying from the guys neck. Besides, the video was too gritty to spot any bloodstains on the clothes.

[ 05-17-2004, 06:55 PM: Message edited by: Stratos ]

[Lanesra]

Originally posted by Yorick: But who were the terrorists in this case? The Unionists or the Republicans? [/QB]

They were all terrorists, both sides, but it was he IRA that were anti British, it was them we needed to talk to, and all though I despise them, it was what had to be done to save more bloodshed, and although things are far from perfect there now, I think it's better than it was.

[shamrock_uk]

http://66.102.11.104/search?q=cache:...xecution&hl=en

Is worth a read, certainly raises some interesting questions.

And also this:

http://www.refuse-resist.com/modules...ticle&sid=2610

which catalogues all the inconsistencies in the video.


And @TL, i can't remember which thread you complain about double standards and how the Arabic world never condemns things like this but I'm afraid this is not the case:

In Lebanon, the Hezbollah backed TV station, al-Manar, ran a statement condemning the killing as shameful and ignoble. (remembering that Hezbollah are semi-terrorists themselves).

None of the major satellite and national channels showed the moment of the beheading - saying that the story was strong enough without those images and it would have been indecent to show them.

The editorial in the United Arab Emirates paper, al-Ittihad, said the killers had committed a heinous crime and could not be called Muslims.

The well-regarded Lebanese newspaper, al-Safir, said the beheading "was not an eye for an eye. It was a scene for a scene." The paper continued: "Competition has begun between the disgusting pictures from Abu Ghraib prison and the one of Nick Berg's slaughter - just like advertisements marketing various products."

Kuwait's al-Ra'y al-Am said those who carried out the beheading were harming their own county, while another Kuwaiti newspaper, al-Qabas, warned that the crimes committed by terrorist organisations in Iraq would be exported to neighbouring countries.

It is true that the story was not widely reported in all media. But that, as we saw, was also the case in the United States throughout the war (eg prisoner abuse etc) However, there is no mention of any newspaper or tv station that endorses it, or even plays it down.

The fact that it is not reported that much is in part because these are totalitarian societies, and the press faces much harsher restrictions, and not because people think it is not bad.

[Timber Loftis]

Shamrock, thanks for the info, and Yorick, I actually agree -- held prisoners should be slated for trial by a fair tribunal that allows them to confront the evidence against them. I see this as the honorable and noble tradition of the American legal system, and I do not like administration officials lording over it.