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[Vedran]

It is funny that Sold-Out lists Thief under Shoot 'em up games...

I hope that the third one would be more realistic than its prequels. There were some weird situations.

[Sythe]

For example Vedran?

I've only played the demos for both of them

[Vedran]

Some things that always bothered me in Thief (2):
-Garret appears to wear metal boots. Every step echoes to the roof. If I were a thief, I would wrap my shoes with cloth or whatever thieves do.
-Guards always know that that's me making noise. They never think that that could be another guard.
-Garret has no shadow.
-Climbing key is the same as jumping key. So if it turns out that I cannot climb on that particular box, I will alert the guards with my metal boots.
-I cannot kill unconscious foes. Sometimes I can with the sword, but not always.
-An arrow kills a guard if he is unaware even in his leg (not every one, though). But if he is running for me, and I shot him in the face, he survives!?
-A kick with blackjack in the leg makes a person unconscious!?
-Garret runs very slow with a sword in his hand, but while it is sheated, it doesn't bother him!?
-Stepping through windows is very hard thing to do, nearly impossible.
-Garret cannot get off ladders or rope without jumping upwards.
-Footprints in snow? Forget it.
-Wet marks on the floor after swimming? Duke3D had those.
-I cannot put out a torch without water, but I can light some of them without fire.

[SpiritWarrior]

Originally posted by Vedran

Some things that always bothered me in Thief (2): -Garret appears to wear metal boots. Every step echoes to the roof. If I were a thief, I would wrap my shoes with cloth or whatever thieves do.

He wears leather shoes. The only time you get the metallic sound is when you're walking/running (not sneaking) on a metal surface, incidentally such as a roof.

-Guards always know that that's me making noise. They never think that that could be another guard.

Actually they do. You'll hear stuff like "Is that you, sir?", "Was that you?", "Did you say something?" and the overused "Must be rats..".

-Garret has no shadow.

Yeah I don't think the dromed supported shadows,,,I see your point though, Thief and all [img]smile.gif[/img] .

-Climbing key is the same as jumping key. So if it turns out that I cannot climb on that particular box, I will alert the guards with my metal boots.

Irritates the hell outta me too.

-I cannot kill unconscious foes. Sometimes I can with the sword, but not always.

I usually stick to the bow since Garrett's more proficient with it.

-An arrow kills a guard if he is unaware even in his leg (not every one, though). But if he is running for me, and I shot him in the face, he survives!?

Well..yes. But that's surprise attack they're trying to justify, the whole sneaky rogue thing ya know. In the shock of being spotted we can safely say Garrett cannot aim correctly as his talent lies in skulking in shadows and using shock/surprise attacks from there.

-A kick with blackjack in the leg makes a person unconscious!?

Damn clunky game engine [img]smile.gif[/img] .

-Garret runs very slow with a sword in his hand, but while it is sheated, it doesn't bother him!?

Well Garrett not only carries a sword, but a whole load of stuff, a bow, flashbombs, flares, sets of keys, all manner of fruits, vegetables and breads and STILL he manages to creep round with ease, move silently in shadows and sprint away weightlessly.

-Stepping through windows is very hard thing to do, nearly impossible.

Not for a trained cat-burglar.

-Garret cannot get off ladders or rope without jumping upwards.

Hehe, yeah that's our Garry.

-Footprints in snow? Forget it.

Cursed engine!

-Wet marks on the floor after swimming? Duke3D had those.

Easily done too, guess Garrett is waterproof also.

-I cannot put out a torch without water, but I can light some of them without fire.

Quite the talent you have there [img]smile.gif[/img] .

Thief 3 is coming out in a bit. Looking Glass Studios is no more so it's being handled by another group (of which many of the former Looking-Glass people now work). Looks good though, new engine is spiffy enough.

[shadowhound]

Originally posted by Vedran: 1. Garret runs very slow with a sword in his hand, but while it is sheated, it doesn't bother him!? 2. Stepping through windows is very hard thing to do, nearly impossible.

1. Have you ever tried running with a sword in you hand and not injuring yourself? Of course you are going to slow down.

2. I have to disagree with that