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Old 05-08-2001, 12:28 PM   #51
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Tolkin!, I had to force my self to finish the Hobbit and never even touched lord of the ring or Slimmeran (?). Perhaps it was the whohar about him being great but I just don't like them.
Oh Gabs, don't give up on the Father of Science Fiction! I'd admit, some of the parts of his books are tough to chew through, but it is well worth it later. Can't have a beautiful house without laying down the foundations and the wiring ect. And don't take this the wrong way, but Tolkin is one of those authors that you get different things out of the older you are. Not saying the book is too hard, but try rereading it when you are a couple of years older. I did. I hated it the first time I read it (16) but reread it later (24) and loved it. No specific reason why, just a different state of mind/knowledge/attitude. So please don't give up on the lord of the rings. Bilbo gives way to Frodo and it picks up.

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Old 05-08-2001, 03:21 PM   #52
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No one has mentioned one of my least favorite writers, David Eddings. I made it through the Belgariad, and most of the way through the Mallorean, when I realized the characters were basically on a road trip. They never had any real opposition. I tried reading the Ruby Knight, but got disgusted a short ways in, realizing that the characters were all the same ones from the Belgariad, just with different names.

I've only read one book by Terry Goodkind, The Wizard's First Rule, but I thought that was pretty bad. Seeing how it was his first book, I ought to give him another chance. Has he gotten better?

On the topic of Tolkien and the Silmarillion, the first hundred pages or so deal with the creation of middle earth, and the Vardu (the gods). Once you get past that part, the histories of the elves, and later, the Numenoreans begin, and the reading gets much easier.

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Old 05-08-2001, 03:51 PM   #53
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Hehe, yah, that's Eddings... boy gets rock, boy gets girl, boy loses rock/girl, boy loses girl/rock (whichever he didn't lose first), boy gets rock and girl back. With the following characters: the hero, the super-knight (from the race of knights), the super-archer (from the race of archers), the magic user, and the super-thief (from the race of thieves).

Same story, different names. However, while he may have problems inventing a new plot/characters, taking one of his works by itself is enjoyable. Just don't read them one after the other
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Old 05-12-2001, 07:04 AM   #54
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I am pleased no one else has had to suffer through Rose Estes books

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Old 05-13-2001, 10:41 AM   #55
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I read a couple of Rose Estes Greywolf books. The Mika trilogy. Fortunately I'd only borrowed them from the local library. I didn't hate them but certainly not the best dungeons and dragons books I've ever read either. Not enough seemed to happen.

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Old 05-25-2001, 02:19 AM   #56
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Well, at the moment the a-hole who wrote that piece of crap BG novelization is at the top of my shit-list, but, as for writers who've actually written more than 2 books....Ron Hubbard. The Death of Sleep was actually about some rich guy going after a magic rock and a genie while spouting the virtues of Scientology and the evils of psychology and communism. My god, how did he live with himself after writing that....
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Old 05-25-2001, 05:08 PM   #57
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Ok, i have already spelt out my distaste of Rose Estes. Who do you think is the worst modern writer of Fantasy?


Mercedes Lackey.
Piers Anthony.
Patricia Wrede.
Alan Wold.

I can't think of any others right now, but these four definitely rate a "blech-ptooie!"

As for AD&D novels...

Memnoch, where's your rant about Ed Greenwood?

I picked up _Elminster: The Making of a Mage_, and found myself thinking, "Dang,I thought only women wrote MarySues!"

His complaining (in the afterward of _Crown of Fire_) about how the scenes with Elminster and The Simbul fighting some of The Villains in _Spellfire_ had to be cut was just... pathetic. Elminster and The Simbul were not the main characters in _SP_, and if he wanted them to be, he should have written a different books.

Lynn Abbey writes Greenwood's characters better than he does.

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Old 05-25-2001, 07:11 PM   #58
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My vote goes to
Philip Athans for that pile of crap he called Baldur's Gate.

As for Ed Greenwood I have not read any of his books I am going carry on avoiding them...
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Old 05-25-2001, 08:59 PM   #59
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Did Robert Jordon write the Horseclan Series back in the seventies and eighties?

No, that was Robert Adams.

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Old 06-03-2001, 08:13 AM   #60
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Hmm, interesting comments, all.

I put my vote as the worst fantasy author of all time as Piers Anthony.

Xanth novels - a "trilogy" of (I've-lost-count-how-many) that should have stopped at one. And as for some of those self indulgent author ramblings at the end of some of his books - Ehh, urg !!
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