Visit the Ironworks Gaming Website Email the Webmaster Graphics Library Rules and Regulations Help Support Ironworks Forum with a Donation to Keep us Online - We rely totally on Donations from members Donation goal Meter

Ironworks Gaming Radio

Ironworks Gaming Forum

Go Back   Ironworks Gaming Forum > Ironworks Gaming Forums > General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-23-2008, 08:11 PM   #11
Larry_OHF
Ironworks Moderator
 

Join Date: March 1, 2001
Location: Midlands, South Carolina
Age: 49
Posts: 14,759
Default Re: New Hardware Firewall Suggestions?

I think everybody missed one key word in my first post. "Replacing".
I am not new to how firewalls and routers work, and have owned one for so long that this one died of old age (6 years). It was a Microsoft router, if that dates me to when I bought it.

I only wanted to know what you guys thought was the best thing on the market today, and see how many votes were for D-Link and how many were for Netgear. I am shocked that Bungleau has a Linksys and will now have to seriously reconsider my position that they are the worst of the three leading brands.

I am sure that some things mentioned above will help somebody on IW, but does anyone have any advice "I" can use? (besides the good reference to Linksys,,,thanks for that)

By the way, I alluded to having a broadband connection in my second post, but it was not mentioned blatantly enough.
I also have a software firewall...do not fret.
__________________
Larry_OHF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2008, 08:22 PM   #12
Froberg
The Magister
 

Join Date: August 16, 2004
Location: Denmark
Age: 39
Posts: 126
Default Re: New Hardware Firewall Suggestions?

Linksys bad? No, not as long as you keep them firmware updated. I believe Cisco owns linksys as their "low end brand". Basically they're selling out-dated cisco equipment in a new packaging. I believe they're stopping with that, and going cisco all the way.
I think it's Linksys, might be ZyXel.

As far as I'm concerned, the best networking equipment anyone can possibly get, is made by Cisco.

edit; I was correct, Linksys is indeed owned by Cisco.

edit2; Looked at some network equipment. A router like this one: http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satel...=1527849779B07 Would most definitely protect you against.. well.. Almost everything.
It would also let you access your home stuff via VPN, Quite handy.
__________________
Real men don't take backups. They cry.

Last edited by Froberg; 05-23-2008 at 08:28 PM.
Froberg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2008, 09:18 PM   #13
Larry_OHF
Ironworks Moderator
 

Join Date: March 1, 2001
Location: Midlands, South Carolina
Age: 49
Posts: 14,759
Default Re: New Hardware Firewall Suggestions?

I actually did not know that Cisco owned them. I know while working at Circuit City, those I worked with never did refer Linksys unless the person was shopping by price, since Linksys is the cheaper one of the three.

Thanks for the link, but it looks like not many people at newegg care for it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...91&Tpk=RVS4000
I usually tend to pay attention to user data from that site.
__________________
Larry_OHF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2008, 10:10 PM   #14
Larry_OHF
Ironworks Moderator
 

Join Date: March 1, 2001
Location: Midlands, South Carolina
Age: 49
Posts: 14,759
Default Re: New Hardware Firewall Suggestions?

While I have you all thinking about firewalls, let me go ahead and ask this. As for the software firewall, I have read nearly 100% of reviews say that Windows Firewall is the worst protection of all my choices...that I should have Comodo or ZA. However, I took some tests and allowed my system to be hit with everything they could throw at me, and I passed all tests with no trouble. Is that not to say that Windows Firewall is not as bad as all that?


Edit: Well...that is not entirely accurate. I passed the ports tests and the trojan exploits, but I got messages back from both sites that say that my browser is leaking referrer info, and if I have my cookies set to block everything, I only pass by 50%. That is the only exploit I have, but that is remedied with Firefox. Firefox has some of its own issues, so I do not use it exclusively.


Here's where I went:

http://www.pcflank.com/about.htm

https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
__________________

Last edited by Larry_OHF; 05-23-2008 at 10:17 PM.
Larry_OHF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2008, 02:55 AM   #15
dplax
Jack Burton
 

Join Date: July 19, 2003
Location: an expat living in France
Age: 40
Posts: 5,577
Default Re: New Hardware Firewall Suggestions?

The problem with Windows Firewall is that it doesn't block outgoing connections. I know of a couple of malware which can exploit that and get into the system that way...
dplax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2008, 06:03 AM   #16
Froberg
The Magister
 

Join Date: August 16, 2004
Location: Denmark
Age: 39
Posts: 126
Default Re: New Hardware Firewall Suggestions?

Aye, but with any decent router a lot should be stopped right there.

The integrated firewall offers on-boot protection - that is protection as soon as the computer starts up.
I've used other applications, but the drain on my computer led me to use the integrated instead. I've never looked back.
__________________
Real men don't take backups. They cry.
Froberg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2008, 08:50 PM   #17
Larry_OHF
Ironworks Moderator
 

Join Date: March 1, 2001
Location: Midlands, South Carolina
Age: 49
Posts: 14,759
Default Re: New Hardware Firewall Suggestions?

Looks to be that all of my research has led me to one of these two items by ZyXel.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ALL%2b2%2bPlus

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833181104

I am just trying to decide now if I want the bigger one or can settle with the smaller one. I almost bought this :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833124190
The Linksys wrt54GL (notice this is the L version). Its 11 time customer choice winner...but I have no need at all for the wireless router part of it and only need the firewall, so the ZyXel will probably be just fine.

Edit: I think the P1 is all I need, after looking at the 500 page instruction manual of what it is capable of doing.
__________________

Last edited by Larry_OHF; 05-25-2008 at 09:23 PM.
Larry_OHF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2008, 09:40 PM   #18
Bungleau
40th Level Warrior
 

Join Date: October 29, 2001
Location: Western Wilds of Michigan
Posts: 11,752
Default Re: New Hardware Firewall Suggestions?

I don't know, Larry... looking at the cons listed in the reviews, throttling half your bandwidth and limiting you to just one DHCP client are pretty substantial issues in my book. If the only thing about the Linksys that turns you off is that it's got Wifi, remember that you don't have to use it... and later on, you will probably want it.

It looks like the P1 would be great if you also needed a VPN... but if you're doing that, you'll probably need at least one more computer (and hence IP address...).

Still, I don't have to live at your house or support it. If the P1 sounds better to you, get it. Just be sure to make an informed decision.
__________________
*B*
Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After
Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers
-+-+-+
Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last.
Bungleau is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2008, 09:45 PM   #19
Larry_OHF
Ironworks Moderator
 

Join Date: March 1, 2001
Location: Midlands, South Carolina
Age: 49
Posts: 14,759
Default Re: New Hardware Firewall Suggestions?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bungleau View Post
I don't know, Larry... looking at the cons listed in the reviews, throttling half your bandwidth and limiting you to just one DHCP client are pretty substantial issues in my book. If the only thing about the Linksys that turns you off is that it's got Wifi, remember that you don't have to use it... and later on, you will probably want it.

It looks like the P1 would be great if you also needed a VPN... but if you're doing that, you'll probably need at least one more computer (and hence IP address...).

Still, I don't have to live at your house or support it. If the P1 sounds better to you, get it. Just be sure to make an informed decision.
You mirrored my thinking...I was looking at the instruction book for the Linksys and what its firewall capacities offer, and thinking about the Zyxel's complexities and the chance that I'd get slowed down (just one guy said that)...but the MAIN issue was the fact that in Zyxel's manual, Roadrunner ISP is actually listed as a connectivity issue (albeit they have a work-around printed in the book) and that makes me even more nervous to just buy the thing right now.

Why does this have to be so difficult?
__________________
Larry_OHF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2008, 10:16 PM   #20
Larry_OHF
Ironworks Moderator
 

Join Date: March 1, 2001
Location: Midlands, South Carolina
Age: 49
Posts: 14,759
Default Re: New Hardware Firewall Suggestions?

So Bungleau, did you DD-WRT your router? Sounds fun.

http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv3/index.php

http://lifehacker.com/software/route...ter-178132.php

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

http://www.testmy.net/forum/t-12222
__________________
Larry_OHF is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Firewall Sir Goulum Entertainment (Movies, TV Shows and Books/Comics) 2 02-18-2006 11:46 PM
How essential is a hardware firewall? RoSs_bg2_rox General Conversation Archives (11/2000 - 01/2005) 4 08-10-2004 01:05 AM
what firewall to get? GForce General Conversation Archives (11/2000 - 01/2005) 12 05-19-2003 09:07 AM
Multiplay through Firewall True_Moose Neverwinter Nights 1 & 2 Also SoU & HotU Forum 2 10-07-2002 10:23 AM
Firewall Rikard_OHF General Conversation Archives (11/2000 - 01/2005) 5 11-03-2001 03:23 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:04 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©2024 Ironworks Gaming & ©2024 The Great Escape Studios TM - All Rights Reserved