Q about smarter Liches&Mages-tactics mod

Xen · 06-04-2003, 11:09 AM

Ok.Weimer has good mods but I have this Q about smarter liches&mages.If they are so smarter why are they using ADHW(s)?Would a real player cast such a powerful spell on creatures that are summoned by Wand Of monster Summoning?

EDIT:level up!Weheee [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 06-04-2003, 11:10 AM: Message edited by: Xen ]

Dundee Slaytern · 06-04-2003, 11:15 AM

It's called AI Script limitations. True... a check for target's XPVALUE can be done... but as Alson and I found out not too long ago... a really smart AI Script for a Mage will be more than 1MB in size.

This includes memory, limited selective targeting and selective casting among other minor details.

Note the limited selective targeting. If we made it as best as possible... the filesize would be a whopping 9MB in size. Running a few of these babies will slow your machine to a crawl unless you have a hyperfast processor.

Xen · 06-04-2003, 11:20 AM

I think i have it...=> 1.2 GhZ [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 06-04-2003, 11:20 AM: Message edited by: Xen ]

White Lancer · 06-04-2003, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
a really smart AI Script for a Mage will be more than 1MB in size.

This includes memory, limited selective targeting and selective casting among other minor details.

Note the limited selective targeting. If we made it as best as possible... the filesize would be a whopping 9MB in size. Running a few of these babies will slow your machine to a crawl unless you have a hyperfast processor.

9MB is pretty big, IIRC, each characters is 1 byte in size, so that would be approximately 9,437,184 characters(9 MB = 9*1024 KB = 9*1024*1024 B)... that's a lot of typing. Even the 1MB version would still be huge, coming in at roughly 1,048,576. Have fun typing all that out.

Still, that would be a VERY comprehensive script, i dont suppose you kept it did you? I wouldn't mind having a look.

Dundee Slaytern · 06-04-2003, 11:53 AM

Let's just say that... after making a basic template for a spell, I copied, pasted and modified over and over again, paragraphs after paragraphs. The 9MB is an estimate, because halfway through the project, I realised that to cater to 10 targets would be madness after calculating the current filesize and mulitplying it. We reduced it to 4 targets, making it much more manageable. I only completed up to level 3 spells/potions/wands/melee combat... and the script was already 30,000 lines over.

Still... it was a pretty good script, if a tad big.

I do however... have some complete AI Scripts for BG1 characters. Not Mage or Cleric though. I still get brain-freeze thinking of all those lines of text.

Alivad · 06-04-2003, 12:06 PM

You can, generally, play around with targetting blocks a bit to get the size of things down slightly. On the other hand, decent targetting generally has to be pretty big (I've got a 30KB block around somewhere to target Domination, for example).
I've looked at Weimer's AI scripts, and while I think they do leave a bit to be desired in terms of intelligence in some respects, they're pretty decent for "generic" enemy scripts, and aren't going to cause horrific performance problems.

Dundee Slaytern · 06-04-2003, 12:15 PM

Introducing... Melf's Acid Arrow.

This one caters to six targets, and takes the scroll into account too. Note that some spells, like Magic Missile has twice the coding due to its' ability to get rid of Mirror Image( selective casting so to speak).

WARNING - Excessive Text,

code:

// Melfs Acid Arrow

IF

	ActionListEmpty()

	See([ENEMY])

	CheckStat(NearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,162)	// Target has no Spell Turning

	CheckStat(NearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,MINORGLOBE)

	!CheckStatGT(Myself,40,SPELLFAILUREMAGE)

	!CheckStatGT(NearestEnemyOf(Myself),75,RESISTACID)

	!CheckStatGT(NearestEnemyOf(Myself),40,RESISTMAGIC  )

	!GlobalTimerNotExpired("RoundTimer","LOCALS")

	!HasItem("DEMILICH"	,NearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("LICH"		,NearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("MAGEAMUL"	,NearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("RAKRING"	,NearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!StateCheck(NearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_CHARMED)

	!StateCheck(NearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_HELPLESS)

	!StateCheck(NearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_INVISIBLE  )

	!StateCheck(NearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_IMPROVEDI  NVISIBILITY)

	HaveSpell(2211)

THEN

	RESPONSE #100

		

		SetGlobalTimer("RoundTimer","LOCALS",6)

		Spell(NearestEnemyOf(Myself),2211)

END

IF

	ActionListEmpty()

	See([ENEMY])

	CheckStat(SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,162)	// Target has no Spell Turning

	CheckStat(SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,MINORGLOB  E)

	!CheckStatGT(Myself,40,SPELLFAILUREMAGE)

	!CheckStatGT(SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself),75,RESIS  TACID)

	!CheckStatGT(SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself),40,RESIS  TMAGIC)

	!GlobalTimerNotExpired("RoundTimer","LOCALS")

	!HasItem("DEMILICH"	,SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("LICH"		,SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("MAGEAMUL"	,SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("RAKRING"	,SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!StateCheck(SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_CHA  RMED)

	!StateCheck(SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_HEL  PLESS)

	!StateCheck(SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_INV  ISIBLE)

	!StateCheck(SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_IMP  ROVEDINVISIBILITY)

	HaveSpell(2211)

THEN

	RESPONSE #100

		

		SetGlobalTimer("RoundTimer","LOCALS",6)

		Spell(SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself),2211)

END

IF

	ActionListEmpty()

	See([ENEMY])

	CheckStat(ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,162)	// Target has no Spell Turning

	CheckStat(ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,MINORGLOBE  )

	!CheckStatGT(Myself,40,SPELLFAILUREMAGE)

	!CheckStatGT(ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself),75,RESIST  ACID)

	!CheckStatGT(ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself),40,RESIST  MAGIC)

	!GlobalTimerNotExpired("RoundTimer","LOCALS")

	!HasItem("DEMILICH"	,ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("LICH"		,ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("MAGEAMUL"	,ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("RAKRING"	,ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!StateCheck(ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_CHAR  MED)

	!StateCheck(ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_HELP  LESS)

	!StateCheck(ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_INVI  SIBLE)

	!StateCheck(ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_IMPR  OVEDINVISIBILITY)

	HaveSpell(2211)

THEN

	RESPONSE #100

		

		SetGlobalTimer("RoundTimer","LOCALS",6)

		Spell(ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself),2211)

END

IF

	ActionListEmpty()

	See([ENEMY])

	CheckStat(FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,162)	// Target has no Spell Turning

	CheckStat(FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,MINORGLOB  E)

	!CheckStatGT(Myself,40,SPELLFAILUREMAGE)

	!CheckStatGT(FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),75,RESIS  TACID)

	!CheckStatGT(FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),40,RESIS  TMAGIC)

	!GlobalTimerNotExpired("RoundTimer","LOCALS")

	!HasItem("DEMILICH"	,FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("LICH"		,FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("MAGEAMUL"	,FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("RAKRING"	,FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!StateCheck(FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_CHA  RMED)

	!StateCheck(FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_HEL  PLESS)

	!StateCheck(FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_INV  ISIBLE)

	!StateCheck(FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_IMP  ROVEDINVISIBILITY)

	HaveSpell(2211)

THEN

	RESPONSE #100

		

		SetGlobalTimer("RoundTimer","LOCALS",6)

		Spell(FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),2211)

END

IF

	ActionListEmpty()

	See([ENEMY])

	CheckStat(FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,162)	// Target has no Spell Turning

	CheckStat(FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,MINORGLOBE  )

	!CheckStatGT(Myself,40,SPELLFAILUREMAGE)

	!CheckStatGT(FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),75,RESIST  ACID)

	!CheckStatGT(FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),40,RESIST  MAGIC)

	!GlobalTimerNotExpired("RoundTimer","LOCALS")

	!HasItem("DEMILICH"	,FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("LICH"		,FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("MAGEAMUL"	,FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("RAKRING"	,FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!StateCheck(FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_CHAR  MED)

	!StateCheck(FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_HELP  LESS)

	!StateCheck(FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_INVI  SIBLE)

	!StateCheck(FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_IMPR  OVEDINVISIBILITY)

	HaveSpell(2211)

THEN

	RESPONSE #100

		

		SetGlobalTimer("RoundTimer","LOCALS",6)

		Spell(FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),2211)

END

IF

	ActionListEmpty()

	See([ENEMY])

	CheckStat(SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,162)	// Target has no Spell Turning

	CheckStat(SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,MINORGLOBE  )

	!CheckStatGT(Myself,40,SPELLFAILUREMAGE)

	!CheckStatGT(SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),75,RESIST  ACID)

	!CheckStatGT(SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),40,RESIST  MAGIC)

	!GlobalTimerNotExpired("RoundTimer","LOCALS")

	!HasItem("DEMILICH"	,SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("LICH"		,SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("MAGEAMUL"	,SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("RAKRING"	,SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!StateCheck(SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_CHAR  MED)

	!StateCheck(SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_HELP  LESS)

	!StateCheck(SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_INVI  SIBLE)

	!StateCheck(SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_IMPR  OVEDINVISIBILITY)

	HaveSpell(2211)

THEN

	RESPONSE #100

		

		SetGlobalTimer("RoundTimer","LOCALS",6)

		Spell(SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),2211)

END

// Melfs Acid Arrow Scroll

IF

	ActionListEmpty()

	See([ENEMY])

	CheckStat(Myself,0,165)	// Not in a state of Improved Alacrity

	CheckStat(NearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,162)	// Target has no Spell Turning

	CheckStat(NearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,MINORGLOBE)

	!CheckStatGT(Myself,40,SPELLFAILUREMAGE)

	!CheckStatGT(NearestEnemyOf(Myself),75,RESISTACID)

	!CheckStatGT(NearestEnemyOf(Myself),40,RESISTMAGIC  )

	!GlobalTimerNotExpired("RoundTimer","LOCALS")

	!HasItem("DEMILICH"	,NearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("LICH"		,NearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("MAGEAMUL"	,NearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("RAKRING"	,NearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!StateCheck(NearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_CHARMED)

	!StateCheck(NearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_HELPLESS)

	!StateCheck(NearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_INVISIBLE  )

	!StateCheck(NearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_IMPROVEDI  NVISIBILITY)

	HasItemEquiped("SCRL95",Myself)

THEN

	RESPONSE #100

		

		SetGlobalTimer("RoundTimer","LOCALS",6)

		UseItem("SCRL95",NearestEnemyOf(Myself))

END

IF

	ActionListEmpty()

	See([ENEMY])

	CheckStat(Myself,0,165)		// Not in a state of Improved Alacrity

	CheckStat(SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,162)	// Target has no Spell Turning

	CheckStat(SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,MINORGLOB  E)

	!CheckStatGT(Myself,40,SPELLFAILUREMAGE)

	!CheckStatGT(SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself),75,RESIS  TACID)

	!CheckStatGT(SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself),40,RESIS  TMAGIC)

	!GlobalTimerNotExpired("RoundTimer","LOCALS")

	!HasItem("DEMILICH"	,SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("LICH"		,SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("MAGEAMUL"	,SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("RAKRING"	,SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!StateCheck(SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_CHA  RMED)

	!StateCheck(SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_HEL  PLESS)

	!StateCheck(SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_INV  ISIBLE)

	!StateCheck(SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_IMP  ROVEDINVISIBILITY)

	HasItemEquiped("SCRL95",Myself)

THEN

	RESPONSE #100

		

		SetGlobalTimer("RoundTimer","LOCALS",6)

		UseItem("SCRL95",SecondNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

END

IF

	ActionListEmpty()

	See([ENEMY])

	CheckStat(Myself,0,165)		// Not in a state of Improved Alacrity

	CheckStat(ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,162)	// Target has no Spell Turning

	CheckStat(ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,MINORGLOBE  )

	!CheckStatGT(Myself,40,SPELLFAILUREMAGE)

	!CheckStatGT(ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself),75,RESIST  ACID)

	!CheckStatGT(ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself),40,RESIST  MAGIC)

	!GlobalTimerNotExpired("RoundTimer","LOCALS")

	!HasItem("DEMILICH"	,ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("LICH"		,ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("MAGEAMUL"	,ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("RAKRING"	,ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!StateCheck(ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_CHAR  MED)

	!StateCheck(ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_HELP  LESS)

	!StateCheck(ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_INVI  SIBLE)

	!StateCheck(ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_IMPR  OVEDINVISIBILITY)

	HasItemEquiped("SCRL95",Myself)

THEN

	RESPONSE #100

		

		SetGlobalTimer("RoundTimer","LOCALS",6)

		UseItem("SCRL95",ThirdNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

END

IF

	ActionListEmpty()

	See([ENEMY])

	CheckStat(Myself,0,165)		// Not in a state of Improved Alacrity

	CheckStat(FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,162)	// Target has no Spell Turning

	CheckStat(FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,MINORGLOB  E)

	!CheckStatGT(Myself,40,SPELLFAILUREMAGE)

	!CheckStatGT(FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),75,RESIS  TACID)

	!CheckStatGT(FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),40,RESIS  TMAGIC)

	!GlobalTimerNotExpired("RoundTimer","LOCALS")

	!HasItem("DEMILICH"	,FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("LICH"		,FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("MAGEAMUL"	,FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("RAKRING"	,FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!StateCheck(FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_CHA  RMED)

	!StateCheck(FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_HEL  PLESS)

	!StateCheck(FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_INV  ISIBLE)

	!StateCheck(FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_IMP  ROVEDINVISIBILITY)

	HasItemEquiped("SCRL95",Myself)

THEN

	RESPONSE #100

		

		SetGlobalTimer("RoundTimer","LOCALS",6)

		UseItem("SCRL95",FourthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

END

IF

	ActionListEmpty()

	See([ENEMY])

	CheckStat(Myself,0,165)		// Not in a state of Improved Alacrity

	CheckStat(FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,162)	// Target has no Spell Turning

	CheckStat(FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,MINORGLOBE  )

	!CheckStatGT(Myself,40,SPELLFAILUREMAGE)

	!CheckStatGT(FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),75,RESIST  ACID)

	!CheckStatGT(FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),40,RESIST  MAGIC)

	!GlobalTimerNotExpired("RoundTimer","LOCALS")

	!HasItem("DEMILICH"	,FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("LICH"		,FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("MAGEAMUL"	,FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("RAKRING"	,FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!StateCheck(FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_CHAR  MED)

	!StateCheck(FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_HELP  LESS)

	!StateCheck(FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_INVI  SIBLE)

	!StateCheck(FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_IMPR  OVEDINVISIBILITY)

	HasItemEquiped("SCRL95",Myself)

THEN

	RESPONSE #100

		

		SetGlobalTimer("RoundTimer","LOCALS",6)

		UseItem("SCRL95",FifthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

END

IF

	ActionListEmpty()

	See([ENEMY])

	CheckStat(Myself,0,165)		// Not in a state of Improved Alacrity

	CheckStat(SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,162)	// Target has no Spell Turning

	CheckStat(SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),0,MINORGLOBE  )

	!CheckStatGT(Myself,40,SPELLFAILUREMAGE)

	!CheckStatGT(SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),75,RESIST  ACID)

	!CheckStatGT(SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),40,RESIST  MAGIC)

	!GlobalTimerNotExpired("RoundTimer","LOCALS")

	!HasItem("DEMILICH"	,SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("LICH"		,SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("MAGEAMUL"	,SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!HasItem("RAKRING"	,SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

	!StateCheck(SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_CHAR  MED)

	!StateCheck(SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_HELP  LESS)

	!StateCheck(SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_INVI  SIBLE)

	!StateCheck(SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself),STATE_IMPR  OVEDINVISIBILITY)

	HasItemEquiped("SCRL95",Myself)

THEN

	RESPONSE #100

		

		SetGlobalTimer("RoundTimer","LOCALS",6)

		UseItem("SCRL95",SixthNearestEnemyOf(Myself))

END

[/QUOTE]

[ 06-04-2003, 12:20 PM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

Raistlin Majere · 06-04-2003, 01:28 PM

[img]graemlins/wow.gif[/img] wow, starting to feel a bit dizzy [img]graemlins/1dizzy.gif[/img]

andrewas · 06-04-2003, 01:52 PM

Bloody hell, but thats one inefficient scripting language. One thing that springs to mind should this project ever get going again, if you can nest if statements you can do something like

code:
if (nearest enemy is a valid target)

then

 if (have spell) cast spell else

 if (have scroll) cast spell 

end
[/QUOTE]which cuts the melfs acid arrow script in half, give or take.

Shame there isnt a function to take the nth nearest enemy, that would really cut down on the lines needed.

SixOfSpades · 06-04-2003, 05:51 PM

The biggest flaw of the Infinity Engine is that it has no capacity for functions like (determine if creature X is a valid target for spell Y). It doesn't even have the most basic things that most programmers take for granted, such as arrays, subroutines, 'until' statements--hell, the damn language doesn't even have 'FOR' loops. Take another look at Dundee's code: It's all IF, THEN, END. Not even a single ELSE in the whole damn thing.

And I thought C++ was ugly.

06-04-2003, 12:06 PM	#6
Alivad Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: April 14, 2003 Location: UK Age: 29 Posts: 20	You can, generally, play around with targetting blocks a bit to get the size of things down slightly. On the other hand, decent targetting generally has to be pretty big (I've got a 30KB block around somewhere to target Domination, for example). I've looked at Weimer's AI scripts, and while I think they do leave a bit to be desired in terms of intelligence in some respects, they're pretty decent for "generic" enemy scripts, and aren't going to cause horrific performance problems. __________________ [url]\"http://www.dragonlancetc.com\" target=\"_blank\">The Dragonlance TC</a> - a total conversion for Throne of Bhaal

06-04-2003, 01:28 PM	#8
Raistlin Majere Ra Join Date: March 26, 2002 Location: Finland Age: 37 Posts: 2,323	[img]graemlins/wow.gif[/img] wow, starting to feel a bit dizzy [img]graemlins/1dizzy.gif[/img] __________________ If the radiance of a thousand suns were to burst forth at once in the sky, that would be like the splendor of the Mighty One. "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds."

06-04-2003, 01:52 PM	#9
andrewas Harper Join Date: October 2, 2001 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Age: 43 Posts: 4,774	Bloody hell, but thats one inefficient scripting language. One thing that springs to mind should this project ever get going again, if you can nest if statements you can do something like code: if (nearest enemy is a valid target) then if (have spell) cast spell else if (have scroll) cast spell end [/QUOTE]which cuts the melfs acid arrow script in half, give or take. Shame there isnt a function to take the nth nearest enemy, that would really cut down on the lines needed. __________________ [img]\"http://www.sighost.us/members/Zvijer/andrewas.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

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06-04-2003, 11:09 AM	#1
Xen Symbol of Moradin Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana Age: 37 Posts: 8,554	Ok.Weimer has good mods but I have this Q about smarter liches&mages.If they are so smarter why are they using ADHW(s)?Would a real player cast such a powerful spell on creatures that are summoned by Wand Of monster Summoning? EDIT:level up!Weheee [img]smile.gif[/img] [ 06-04-2003, 11:10 AM: Message edited by: Xen ]

06-04-2003, 11:15 AM	#2
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	It's called AI Script limitations. True... a check for target's XPVALUE can be done... but as Alson and I found out not too long ago... a really smart AI Script for a Mage will be more than 1MB in size. This includes memory, limited selective targeting and selective casting among other minor details. Note the limited selective targeting. If we made it as best as possible... the filesize would be a whopping 9MB in size. Running a few of these babies will slow your machine to a crawl unless you have a hyperfast processor.

06-04-2003, 11:20 AM	#3
Xen Symbol of Moradin Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana Age: 37 Posts: 8,554	I think i have it...=> 1.2 GhZ [img]smile.gif[/img] [ 06-04-2003, 11:20 AM: Message edited by: Xen ]

06-04-2003, 11:53 AM	#5
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Let's just say that... after making a basic template for a spell, I copied, pasted and modified over and over again, paragraphs after paragraphs. The 9MB is an estimate, because halfway through the project, I realised that to cater to 10 targets would be madness after calculating the current filesize and mulitplying it. We reduced it to 4 targets, making it much more manageable. I only completed up to level 3 spells/potions/wands/melee combat... and the script was already 30,000 lines over. Still... it was a pretty good script, if a tad big. I do however... have some complete AI Scripts for BG1 characters. Not Mage or Cleric though. I still get brain-freeze thinking of all those lines of text.

06-04-2003, 05:51 PM	#10
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 47 Posts: 6,901	The biggest flaw of the Infinity Engine is that it has no capacity for functions like (determine if creature X is a valid target for spell Y). It doesn't even have the most basic things that most programmers take for granted, such as arrays, subroutines, 'until' statements--hell, the damn language doesn't even have 'FOR' loops. Take another look at Dundee's code: It's all IF, THEN, END. Not even a single ELSE in the whole damn thing. And I thought C++ was ugly. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

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