Project Images ... what spells can they cast ?

daan · 09-29-2002, 09:10 AM

I allready know that they are unable to cast spell-triggers and contingencies and such ... But i thought i saw Dundee write once or twice that he let his PI cast another PI. Can a PI cast PI ?
Im asking 'cause it never works when I try it .. the PI cast PI, but nothing happens ...

Thx for any replies [img]graemlins/happydance.gif[/img]

Dundee Slaytern · 09-29-2002, 09:24 AM

I can confirm a PI illusion can cast Simulacrum or Mislead, but my memory is fuzzy on whether a PII can cast another PII. One thing though, when a PII casts any of these, the resulted clone has no equipment.

daan · 09-29-2002, 10:34 AM

Ah well .. thanks to Alson my sorcerer managed to get out 15 Fallen planetars and something like 12 abi-dalzim horrid wilthings ... per round offcourse ...
[img]graemlins/firedevil.gif[/img]

Dundee Slaytern · 09-29-2002, 10:54 AM

Hmmmm... taking my fully maxed and equipped Sorcerer, he will be able to, in the frame of one Time Stop, cast the following( inclusive of ToB spells and abilities),

Assuming I am fighting a Dragon.

6 Magic Missiles, 8 Melf's Acid Arrows, 7 Flame Arrows, 1 Greater Malison, 6 Spider Spawns, 1 Spell Immunity

ivination, 6 Feebleminds, 1 True Sight, 1 Protection from Magical Weapons, 4 Ruby Rays of Reversal, 3 Finger of Deaths, 2 Abi-Dalzim's Horrid Wiltings, 4 Summon Planetars, 1 Spell Sequencer( 3 Flame Arrows), 1 Spell Trigger( 3 Lower Resistances), and 1 Chain Contingency( 3 Abi-Dalzim's Horrid Wiltings)

All for the price of one Project Image illusion... ...

Using Alson's technique, remove the CC-Bomb and multiply the rest four times over a period of 4 consecutive Time Stops.

I can actually cast more, but no point casting redundant spells.

Alson · 09-29-2002, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
I can confirm a PI illusion can cast Simulacrum or Mislead, but my memory is fuzzy on whether a PII can cast another PII.

It can't.

daan · 09-29-2002, 12:31 PM

Nope it cant

Sheesj, it just took me 25 -wish- spells to finally get the rest-option ... the last 5 wishes were with 25 wisdom ( max stats-wish) ...
Talk about bad luck

Dundee Slaytern · 09-29-2002, 01:39 PM

I use Project Image to spam 6 Wishes. Effective for mass contract signings.

Alson · 09-29-2002, 02:02 PM

Indeed...
Cast PI, swig a Potion of Insight (if needed) then have it cast all it's six wishes and another two from the two Wishes scrolls in-game.
If you have a fighter-heavy party, be sure to pick to "Mass Improved Haste".
If you're doing this while combat, a little x2 TS+IA can't hurt you.

*** Cheese Alert ***

The Hardiness stacking bug was fixed by Baldurdash, right?

Wrong!!

Only partially!

Choose the Mass Hardiness option three times (you'll have a good chance with your eight Djinnis and 18 WIS

) to make your whole party immune to physical damage!

Full Plate is for whimps! Behold!! My Armor-of-Cheese!

Dundee Slaytern · 09-29-2002, 02:14 PM

This is assuming of course, that you get the options in the first place. There are so many choices that you cannot really depend on it 100%.

Alson · 09-29-2002, 02:20 PM

Then, by all means, do not be afraid to cast another Project Image! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I'm sure that with 18 WIS and 16 Djinnis, we'll get x3 Hardiness.

I always did.

09-29-2002, 09:10 AM	#1
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 40 Posts: 1,644	I allready know that they are unable to cast spell-triggers and contingencies and such ... But i thought i saw Dundee write once or twice that he let his PI cast another PI. Can a PI cast PI ? Im asking 'cause it never works when I try it .. the PI cast PI, but nothing happens ... Thx for any replies [img]graemlins/happydance.gif[/img] __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

09-29-2002, 10:34 AM	#3
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 40 Posts: 1,644	Ah well .. thanks to Alson my sorcerer managed to get out 15 Fallen planetars and something like 12 abi-dalzim horrid wilthings ... per round offcourse ... [img]graemlins/firedevil.gif[/img] __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

09-29-2002, 10:54 AM	#4
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Hmmmm... taking my fully maxed and equipped Sorcerer, he will be able to, in the frame of one Time Stop, cast the following( inclusive of ToB spells and abilities), Assuming I am fighting a Dragon. 6 Magic Missiles, 8 Melf's Acid Arrows, 7 Flame Arrows, 1 Greater Malison, 6 Spider Spawns, 1 Spell Immunityivination, 6 Feebleminds, 1 True Sight, 1 Protection from Magical Weapons, 4 Ruby Rays of Reversal, 3 Finger of Deaths, 2 Abi-Dalzim's Horrid Wiltings, 4 Summon Planetars, 1 Spell Sequencer( 3 Flame Arrows), 1 Spell Trigger( 3 Lower Resistances), and 1 Chain Contingency( 3 Abi-Dalzim's Horrid Wiltings) All for the price of one Project Image illusion... ... Using Alson's technique, remove the CC-Bomb and multiply the rest four times over a period of 4 consecutive Time Stops. I can actually cast more, but no point casting redundant spells.

09-29-2002, 12:31 PM	#6
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 40 Posts: 1,644	Nope it cant Sheesj, it just took me 25 -wish- spells to finally get the rest-option ... the last 5 wishes were with 25 wisdom ( max stats-wish) ... Talk about bad luck __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

09-29-2002, 02:02 PM	#8
Alson Galvatron Join Date: December 14, 2001 Location: Israel Age: 38 Posts: 2,187	Indeed... Cast PI, swig a Potion of Insight (if needed) then have it cast all it's six wishes and another two from the two Wishes scrolls in-game. If you have a fighter-heavy party, be sure to pick to "Mass Improved Haste". If you're doing this while combat, a little x2 TS+IA can't hurt you. * Cheese Alert * The Hardiness stacking bug was fixed by Baldurdash, right? Wrong!! Only partially! Choose the Mass Hardiness option three times (you'll have a good chance with your eight Djinnis and 18 WIS ) to make your whole party immune to physical damage! Full Plate is for whimps! Behold!! My Armor-of-Cheese! __________________ In memory of Ilan Ramon - the first Israeli astronaut.<br /><br /><br />[url]\"http://members.chello.nl/~j.vanthull/BG2SR/Home.htm\" target=\"_blank\">BGII Spells Reference</a> - everything you ever wanted to know about spells!

09-29-2002, 09:24 AM	#2
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	I can confirm a PI illusion can cast Simulacrum or Mislead, but my memory is fuzzy on whether a PII can cast another PII. One thing though, when a PII casts any of these, the resulted clone has no equipment.

09-29-2002, 01:39 PM	#7
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	I use Project Image to spam 6 Wishes. Effective for mass contract signings.

09-29-2002, 02:14 PM	#9
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	This is assuming of course, that you get the options in the first place. There are so many choices that you cannot really depend on it 100%.

09-29-2002, 02:20 PM	#10
Alson Galvatron Join Date: December 14, 2001 Location: Israel Age: 38 Posts: 2,187	Then, by all means, do not be afraid to cast another Project Image! [img]tongue.gif[/img] I'm sure that with 18 WIS and 16 Djinnis, we'll get x3 Hardiness. I always did. __________________ In memory of Ilan Ramon - the first Israeli astronaut.<br /><br /><br />[url]\"http://members.chello.nl/~j.vanthull/BG2SR/Home.htm\" target=\"_blank\">BGII Spells Reference</a> - everything you ever wanted to know about spells!

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