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I just feel as though the death penalty is the wrong method of punishment. Its a bit hypocritical; to kill those who have killed. Does it make us any different from the killer himself? And I think death would be more a release than a punishment. I'd personally find it much worse to rot in prison for the rest of my life than die early. This is really my first time posting on this particular forum so I really don't want to go off on a huge tirade and piss people off. So if I offended/offend anyone, it really isn't my intention. |
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You know...I have been known in the past to say "give them death", but once I began placing myself in their shoes...and thinking about it a bit more, I am inclined to say that the death penalty is probably not a good idea. For one, its more expensive to us for the lawyers and the clemancy hearings, and the appeals after appeals...I think its cheaper to just let a guy live for 50 years with nothing to eat but very bland, cold food and see how many boyfriends he can make. [ 12-02-2005, 08:31 AM: Message edited by: Larry_OHF ]
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For the DP in theory. Incontrovertible. People who argue society can't justify it have poor logic skills.
Against it as applied. Needs to be no failure rate in the system. When you can't do a "take back" you can accept almost no rate of failure in the system above 0%. Wrongful executions break the system as applied. |
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It depends of course, It needs to be a "just" punishment, ie drug trafficking as seen recently in the Van Tuong case, he was a lackey, and a mule, nothing more, it was not a just punishment, for serial rapists, murderers (I'm thinking typically first degree murders, or those which are absolutely reprehensible) etc perhaps a few other cases (not sedition, desertion, treason, etc those can be handled with lengthy prison terms, though desertion and treason are still legally punishable by capitol punishment)
The movie The Shawshank Redemption (one of the best movies ever) shows pretty well the result of a lifelong imprisonment, the ability to function in the world is stripped away and the knowledge and skills of many longtime inmates is virtually nill for them (at least as far as those skills lead to being able to function in society productively). which is arguably a more cruel punishment than a release from life which will give them a chance to attone for their wrongs to the person they killed, which is largely how I view the death penalty in regards to murderers. [ 12-02-2005, 11:19 AM: Message edited by: Morgeruat ]
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Whoa, complicated topic!
Who exactly the Death Penalty punishes and how. It's not just the convicted. The heaviest consequences come from the most final acts. There is also the matter of redemption and how arbritarily someone is put outside of it's possiblity on this mortal coil. But a Jane's Addiction song lyric about Ted Bundy always strikes a cord in me: ...Some people should die, that's just unconscious knowledge... Like that fellow this week in Florida, convicted of taking that little girl behind a car wash and was caught on tape. Why should he get to eat, breath, whack-off, and crap until he dies of old age in the isolation ward, while that little girl won't ever grow up and her last moments were spent getting degraded by that bastard. The evidence is clear and solid from the video to the DNA. Considering the nature of his crime and being able to bear witness to part of it makes me feel like Give me a rope and I'll string em up myself right now!!! It's most definitely a "brain against the mind" type of topic.
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