London man sponaneously recovers from HIV

Dreamer128 · 11-13-2005, 07:46 AM

Two British newspapers report that doctors have documented the first ever case of a person spontaneously recovering from HIV, the virus which causes AIDS.

In August 2002, a 25-year-old man from London, Andrew Stimpson, was diagnosed as HIV-positive. Fourteen months later tests found no trace of the virus. Mr Stimpson never took medication for HIV and doctors are certain that both samples are from the same person.

There have been many anecdotal reports of people spontaneously recovering from AIDS in Africa, but this is the first case in which there is conclusive evidence.

(rnw.nl)

wellard · 11-13-2005, 08:02 AM

There have been reports for a while about HIV weakening over the years, but to totally disapear???

Not that I doubt you Dreamer ( your track record is to good

) but have you a link?

http://www2.rnw.nl/rnw/en/news/international/#4648853

there we go! [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

sorry Dreamer your link did not work. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 11-13-2005, 08:13 AM: Message edited by: wellard ]

Dreamer128 · 11-13-2005, 08:06 AM

It's under the article, Wellard. [img]smile.gif[/img] I've never known Radio Netherlands (rnw.nl) to post inaccurate bulletins before, but I'll be sure to keep my eyes open for the original source of this news. Perhaps our British members could help out?

[ 11-13-2005, 08:06 AM: Message edited by: Dreamer128 ]

Brayf · 11-13-2005, 08:26 AM

That's really weird... A few nights ago I had a dream that this happened to me! (NB: I'm not actually HIV+, it was just a dream

)

Seriously though, that's a weird coincidence.

Link · 11-13-2005, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brayf:
That's really weird... A few nights ago I had a dream that this happened to me! (NB: I'm not actually HIV+, it was just a dream )

Seriously though, that's a weird coincidence.

I once dreamed that Robbie Williams was close to becoming the next James Bond. A few weeks later this actually became an issue. Coincidence or just freaky fortune-telling abilities?!

"I see dead people!"

Dreamer128 · 11-13-2005, 04:56 PM

I don't know what I find creepier.. the fact that you're half-psychic, or the fact that you're dreaming about Robbie Williams. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Link · 11-13-2005, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dreamer128:
I don't know what I find creepier.. the fact that you're half-psychic, or the fact that you're dreaming about Robbie Williams. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Er... touché?!

Dammit I can't think of a witty reply other than that I have dreamed about Robbie Williams before.... D'oh!! [img]graemlins/doh.gif[/img]

Dreamer128 · 11-13-2005, 05:02 PM

Edit: found another source:

British man 'beats' HIV
12.47PM, Sun Nov 13 2005

A British man has allegedly become the first person in the world to beat HIV.

A number of newspapers reported that Andrew Stimpson, 25, was diagnosed with the virus in 2002. He later tested negative in 2003.

Chelsea and Westminster Healthcare NHS Trust, which carried out the tests, now want him to undergo more before it can be established how he apparently beat the disease. Mr Stimpson said he did not take any medication for HIV.

A spokeswoman said: "These tests were accurate and they were his, but what we don't know at the moment is why that has happened, and we want him to come back in for more tests. It is potentially a fantastic thing."

Stimpson was tested three times in August 2002 at the Victoria clinic for sexual health in central London.

The results showed he was producing HIV antibodies to fight the killer disease.

He took vitamins and other dietary supplements in the hopes that this might prevent full-blown Aids from developing.

After impressing doctors with his good health, Stimpson was offered a new test in 2003.

It came back negative, and further tests in December 2003 and March 2004 also proved negative.

He told a newspaper: "It was the last thing I expected. I was astonished. I was baffled too.

"I couldn't understand how anyone could cure themselves of HIV . . . I thought it had to be wrong because no one can recover from HIV, it just doesn't happen."

The tests were re-checked by the Chelsea and Westminster Healthcare NHS Trust and they confirmed all the tests had been accurate.

The case has baffled medical experts and they want to study Mr Stimpson in the hope that they can learn more about beating HIV.

http://www.itn.co.uk/news/832514.html

[ 11-13-2005, 05:14 PM: Message edited by: Dreamer128 ]

johnny · 11-13-2005, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Link:

quote:
Originally posted by Brayf:
That's really weird... A few nights ago I had a dream that this happened to me! (NB: I'm not actually HIV+, it was just a dream )

Seriously though, that's a weird coincidence.

I once dreamed that Robbie Williams was close to becoming the next James Bond. A few weeks later this actually became an issue. Coincidence or just freaky fortune-telling abilities?!

"I see dead people!" [/QUOTE]Well, Robbie will be dead soon if he keeps snorting like this, so you're probably not even that far off.

11-13-2005, 08:02 AM	#2
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11-13-2005, 07:46 AM	#1
Dreamer128 Dracolisk Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Europe Age: 40 Posts: 6,136	Two British newspapers report that doctors have documented the first ever case of a person spontaneously recovering from HIV, the virus which causes AIDS. In August 2002, a 25-year-old man from London, Andrew Stimpson, was diagnosed as HIV-positive. Fourteen months later tests found no trace of the virus. Mr Stimpson never took medication for HIV and doctors are certain that both samples are from the same person. There have been many anecdotal reports of people spontaneously recovering from AIDS in Africa, but this is the first case in which there is conclusive evidence. (rnw.nl)

11-13-2005, 08:06 AM	#3
Dreamer128 Dracolisk Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Europe Age: 40 Posts: 6,136	It's under the article, Wellard. [img]smile.gif[/img] I've never known Radio Netherlands (rnw.nl) to post inaccurate bulletins before, but I'll be sure to keep my eyes open for the original source of this news. Perhaps our British members could help out? [ 11-13-2005, 08:06 AM: Message edited by: Dreamer128 ]

11-13-2005, 08:26 AM	#4
Brayf Zhentarim Guard Join Date: February 21, 2005 Location: Candlekeep Age: 38 Posts: 372	That's really weird... A few nights ago I had a dream that this happened to me! (NB: I'm not actually HIV+, it was just a dream ) Seriously though, that's a weird coincidence.

11-13-2005, 04:56 PM	#6
Dreamer128 Dracolisk Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Europe Age: 40 Posts: 6,136	I don't know what I find creepier.. the fact that you're half-psychic, or the fact that you're dreaming about Robbie Williams. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

11-13-2005, 05:02 PM	#8
Dreamer128 Dracolisk Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Europe Age: 40 Posts: 6,136	Edit: found another source: British man 'beats' HIV 12.47PM, Sun Nov 13 2005 A British man has allegedly become the first person in the world to beat HIV. A number of newspapers reported that Andrew Stimpson, 25, was diagnosed with the virus in 2002. He later tested negative in 2003. Chelsea and Westminster Healthcare NHS Trust, which carried out the tests, now want him to undergo more before it can be established how he apparently beat the disease. Mr Stimpson said he did not take any medication for HIV. A spokeswoman said: "These tests were accurate and they were his, but what we don't know at the moment is why that has happened, and we want him to come back in for more tests. It is potentially a fantastic thing." Stimpson was tested three times in August 2002 at the Victoria clinic for sexual health in central London. The results showed he was producing HIV antibodies to fight the killer disease. He took vitamins and other dietary supplements in the hopes that this might prevent full-blown Aids from developing. After impressing doctors with his good health, Stimpson was offered a new test in 2003. It came back negative, and further tests in December 2003 and March 2004 also proved negative. He told a newspaper: "It was the last thing I expected. I was astonished. I was baffled too. "I couldn't understand how anyone could cure themselves of HIV . . . I thought it had to be wrong because no one can recover from HIV, it just doesn't happen." The tests were re-checked by the Chelsea and Westminster Healthcare NHS Trust and they confirmed all the tests had been accurate. The case has baffled medical experts and they want to study Mr Stimpson in the hope that they can learn more about beating HIV. http://www.itn.co.uk/news/832514.html [ 11-13-2005, 05:14 PM: Message edited by: Dreamer128 ]

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