Wizards and Wisdom

Witchhunter · 06-30-2002, 10:30 AM

It might be a stupid question, but...Can a Wizard use a high wisdom for anything but Lore? Does it have any effect apart from that?

dragon_lord · 06-30-2002, 10:41 AM

Wisdom really only comes into play for a Wizard when he/she casts the wish spell, it determines the dialogue options and what happens when you ask the Djinni for something or to do something.

[ 06-30-2002, 10:44 AM: Message edited by: dragon_lord ]

Witchhunter · 06-30-2002, 10:46 AM

Cool. Thanks. Then I guess i wont have to boost my Wisdom on account of my Dexterity.

Dundee Slaytern · 06-30-2002, 11:41 AM

Party Mages/Sorcerers generally have no use of WIS. People with ToB and wish to solo the game with a Mage/Sorcerer however, need it.

Minimally, an optimised Mage will have... ...

STR: 12
DEX: 18
CON: 16
INT: 18
WIS: 10
CHA: 08

This gives us a total of 82 stat points.

Why 12 STR? Well... it sucks when your Mage becomes immobile because he/she was not strong enough to carry some Melf's Minute Meteors.

The reason for 10 WIS is to prevent a penalty to Lore. Party Sorcerers can go one step further and reduce INT to 10 as well.

SixOfSpades · 07-01-2002, 05:55 PM

Mages don't even need WIS for Lore purposes, either: Your Thief will always have higher Lore, even if he only has 10 INT & WIS. As for the Wish spells, you can always buy Potions of Insight at any Temple (13 Potions in each one, IIRC).

Willard · 07-01-2002, 08:17 PM

If you are looking for lore, grab a Bard. When you are done remember to throw it in the trash can. Littering is against the Amnish law!

Dundee Slaytern · 07-02-2002, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SixOfSpades:
Mages don't even need WIS for Lore purposes, either: Your Thief will always have higher Lore, even if he only has 10 INT & WIS. As for the Wish spells, you can always buy Potions of Insight at any Temple (13 Potions in each one, IIRC).

If you do not wish your Mages to help identify stuff, then 8 has to be the barest of the barest minimums. Any lower, and you start to incur penalties to your saving throws versus mental spells.

The reason for a base 18 WIS for solo Mages and Sorcerers, is because you get to boost it twice during the game, getting a total of 20, which is not obtainable with a Potion of Insight, and far superior when it comes to rolling your luck in a Wish spell.

06-30-2002, 10:30 AM	#1
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06-30-2002, 10:46 AM	#3
Witchhunter The Magister Join Date: April 19, 2002 Location: Denmark Age: 48 Posts: 110	Cool. Thanks. Then I guess i wont have to boost my Wisdom on account of my Dexterity. __________________ \"Achievement is for senators and scholars. At one time I had ambitions but I had them removed by a doctor in Buffalo. It started as cyst, it grew under my arm and I had to have new shirts made, it was awful. But I have them in a jar at home now.\" <br />-Tom Waits

07-01-2002, 05:55 PM	#5
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 48 Posts: 6,901	Mages don't even need WIS for Lore purposes, either: Your Thief will always have higher Lore, even if he only has 10 INT & WIS. As for the Wish spells, you can always buy Potions of Insight at any Temple (13 Potions in each one, IIRC). __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

07-01-2002, 08:17 PM	#6
Willard Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: June 14, 2001 Location: Vermont Age: 33 Posts: 1,752	If you are looking for lore, grab a Bard. When you are done remember to throw it in the trash can. Littering is against the Amnish law! __________________

06-30-2002, 11:41 AM	#4
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Party Mages/Sorcerers generally have no use of WIS. People with ToB and wish to solo the game with a Mage/Sorcerer however, need it. Minimally, an optimised Mage will have... ... STR: 12 DEX: 18 CON: 16 INT: 18 WIS: 10 CHA: 08 This gives us a total of 82 stat points. Why 12 STR? Well... it sucks when your Mage becomes immobile because he/she was not strong enough to carry some Melf's Minute Meteors. The reason for 10 WIS is to prevent a penalty to Lore. Party Sorcerers can go one step further and reduce INT to 10 as well.

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