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Old 01-30-2003, 01:12 PM   #1
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Japan 'loses' 206kg of plutonium


Japan on Tuesday admitted that 206kg of its plutonium - enough to make about 25 nuclear bombs - is unaccounted for.
Government scientists said that 6,890kg of plutonium had been extracted since 1977 from spent nuclear fuel at a processing plant about 120km north east of Tokyo. But that is 3 per cent short of the amount the plant was estimated to have produced.
About 5kg to 8kg of plutonium are needed to make a 20-kiloton atomic bomb similar to the one that destroyed Nagasaki in 1945.
Experts said the missing amount was surprisingly large.
There is normally a margin of error of 1 per cent or less when measuring liquid plutonium, which can dissolve into other elements.
Japan's admission comes at a time of acute sensitivity because of the threat of nuclear proliferation in north-east Asia following North Korea's revival of its mothballed nuclear programme.
However, there is no evidence that North Korea was linked to the missing plutonium even though it is known to smuggle goods in and out of Japan.
"This is an unusually large amount of plutonium to be unaccounted for, which makes me uncomfortable, although I think it's highly unlikely that it was stolen," said Tatsujiro Suzuki, senior research scientist at the Central Research Institute of Electric Power Industry.
The science ministry, which reported the discrepancy to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), dismissed the idea that the plutonium had been stolen. It said about 90kg was probably diluted into waste-water and about 30kg probably dissolved into other elements.
It admitted it was baffled by the remaining 86kg but said initial output projections may have been too high and the plutonium may not have been produced.
Mohamed ElBaradei, director general of the IAEA, said: "The Agency [is] confident that no nuclear material has been diverted from the facility."
The IAEA, the United Nations nuclear watchdog, has urged Japan to strengthen its procedures for measuring nuclear material since it first noted discrepancies in 1998.

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Old 01-30-2003, 01:34 PM   #2
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OK, how long before someone posts "I guess the US is going to have to go after Japan now for hiding their plutonium"?
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Old 01-30-2003, 02:39 PM   #3
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Hmmm. I'm not genius but 25 Nuclear Bombs in someone's hands doesn't sound very good!
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:11 PM   #4
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I guess the US is going to have to go after Japan now for hiding their plutonium. There you go Ronn!

Anyway how is it possible to lose 200kg of plutonium? It must be somewhere? Somehow I doubt the Japanese are developing nuclear weapons. And Koreans smuggling out 200kg of plutonium seems a bit far fetched as well.
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:16 PM   #5
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What would the Japanese do with that much missing uranium? Hmmm...

...well, it might sound like this:

http://www.godzilla.com/godzilla_4/sounds/snd_groar.wav

and look something like this:



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Old 01-30-2003, 03:20 PM   #6
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ROFLMAO, maybe the red army has something to do with this.
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Old 01-30-2003, 08:59 PM   #7
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Old 01-30-2003, 09:54 PM   #8
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Really makes me feel safe. Maybe its not missing maybe there selling it to other countrys
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Old 01-30-2003, 09:58 PM   #9
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Okay Johnny, give it back! I know you can buy lots of beer with it, but trying to pawn that much plutonium is going attract some attention. I suppose you could sell it Saddam, but I don't think they make very good beer in Iraq.
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Old 01-31-2003, 03:11 AM   #10
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Japan 'loses' 206kg of plutonium


It said about 90kg was probably diluted into waste-water
i find this sorta disturbing more than the fact that its missing... given that plutonium is the most toxic element, where does all this water go to?
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