My (possible) new computer

Link · 09-18-2002, 06:02 AM

As I'm living on my own now (in the city where I'm studying archaeology) my parents agree on me, that I need a computer for myself. So, I was just wandering around, and I saw this brochure of a computer shop here in the Netherlands (called Dynabyte). They had an offer;

ATX Midi Tower • Intel® Pentium® 4 2,0 GHz processor • 256 MB DDR-RAM memory • 512 kb cache • 64 MB Nvidia GeForce MX-420 videocard • 60 GB Ultra ATA harddisk 7200 rpm • 16x48x DVD-ROM • 32x12x40x CD-Rewriter • AC97 six Channel Onboard 3D soundkaart • 56K6 soft modem • 10/100 Mbps onboard networkcard • 2x IEEE 1394 Firewire • 4x USB • PS/2 keyboard • Wheel mouse • Incl. Microsoft Windows XP & Works 6.0 • Philips Subwoofer set

This all for approximately 1000 dollars.. Is that cheap, or not? I don't need a screen, cos I already got one, but I really really hope my parents go and buy me that comp.. What do you guys think??

P.S. Some of the translating might (read: will) be wrong, but I don't know all the English words in computer-language [img]graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

skywalker · 09-18-2002, 06:09 AM

As has been said in other threads of this type lately...lose the MX video card. If you intend to play any new games on it, that card will be the bottle neck and slow you down. Try to see if they will swap it with a Geforce4 4200,4400 or 4600.

Mark

[edit] BTW the cards I listed have 128MB of ram on them, which is not bad to have.

[ 09-18-2002, 06:11 AM: Message edited by: skywalker ]

Grojlach · 09-18-2002, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by skywalker:
As has been said in other threads of this type lately...lose the MX video card. If you intend to play any new games on it, that card will be the bottle neck and slow you down. Try to see if they will swap it with a Geforce4 4200,4400 or 4600.

Mark

[edit] BTW the cards I listed have 128MB of ram on them, which is not bad to have.

...And they're painfully expensive at that. The 4200 is about 228 euro, the 4600 almost 400... But you're right. I believe a GeForce 4 card was even essential to play Neverwinter Nights nowadays...

[ 09-18-2002, 06:14 AM: Message edited by: Grojlach ]

Link · 09-18-2002, 06:14 AM

Hmm.. The salesman told me it was just a Geforce 4.. What's the difference between the MX then?

Grojlach · 09-18-2002, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Link:
Hmm.. The salesman told me it was just a Geforce 4.. What's the difference between the MX then?

I don't know any exact detailed differences, but I'm looking into buying a new computer as well these days, but a GeForce 4 TI is a lot better than a GeForce 4 MX, most definitely when your main focus is to play games on it. But I'm sure someone else with more experience on this subject could give a more detailed description...

skywalker · 09-18-2002, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Link:
Hmm.. The salesman told me it was just a Geforce 4.. What's the difference between the MX then?

I believe even though it they say the MX is a GeForce4 it seems to be more like a Geforce2.

They create these monster machines and proceed to cripple it with watered down video cards...I just don't get it!

Here's a link, Link

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:http://www17.tomshardware.com/graphi...force4-06.html

Mark

Link · 09-18-2002, 06:25 AM

Just read the link, Mark. Thanks.. I don't know now.. Maybe I could ask if they could put in a 4200 in the comp, and pay a little extra... It wouldn't even be really expensive then, right?

Grojlach · 09-18-2002, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Link:
Just read the link, Mark. Thanks.. I don't know now.. Maybe I could ask if they could put in a 4200 in the comp, and pay a little extra... It wouldn't even be really expensive then, right?

Erm... I have a price guide lying here, and this is what it says:

GeForce 4MX 440 ( 64MB DDR) - 96 euro
GeForce 4TI 4200 (128MB DDR) - 223 euro.
There's a difference...

Link · 09-18-2002, 06:36 AM

Yeah. I really need to think this over.. What would you do Groj? I don't really know if the MX 420 is good enough. I mean: I want to play NWN at full, you know

Grojlach · 09-18-2002, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Link:
Yeah. I really need to think this over.. What would you do Groj? I don't really know if the MX 420 is good enough. I mean: I want to play NWN at full, you know

I'm going for the TI 4200 myself, but of course, the money is coming from my own pocket, I don't have parents to persuade and beg in this case...

09-18-2002, 06:02 AM	#1
Link Jack Burton Join Date: May 15, 2001 Location: The Netherlands Age: 40 Posts: 5,888	As I'm living on my own now (in the city where I'm studying archaeology) my parents agree on me, that I need a computer for myself. So, I was just wandering around, and I saw this brochure of a computer shop here in the Netherlands (called Dynabyte). They had an offer; ATX Midi Tower • Intel® Pentium® 4 2,0 GHz processor • 256 MB DDR-RAM memory • 512 kb cache • 64 MB Nvidia GeForce MX-420 videocard • 60 GB Ultra ATA harddisk 7200 rpm • 16x48x DVD-ROM • 32x12x40x CD-Rewriter • AC97 six Channel Onboard 3D soundkaart • 56K6 soft modem • 10/100 Mbps onboard networkcard • 2x IEEE 1394 Firewire • 4x USB • PS/2 keyboard • Wheel mouse • Incl. Microsoft Windows XP & Works 6.0 • Philips Subwoofer set This all for approximately 1000 dollars.. Is that cheap, or not? I don't need a screen, cos I already got one, but I really really hope my parents go and buy me that comp.. What do you guys think?? P.S. Some of the translating might (read: will) be wrong, but I don't know all the English words in computer-language [img]graemlins/blush.gif[/img] __________________ Rowing is not a sport, it's a way of life Goal: Beijing 2008

09-18-2002, 06:25 AM	#7
Link Jack Burton Join Date: May 15, 2001 Location: The Netherlands Age: 40 Posts: 5,888	Just read the link, Mark. Thanks.. I don't know now.. Maybe I could ask if they could put in a 4200 in the comp, and pay a little extra... It wouldn't even be really expensive then, right? __________________ Rowing is not a sport, it's a way of life Goal: Beijing 2008

09-18-2002, 06:36 AM	#9
Link Jack Burton Join Date: May 15, 2001 Location: The Netherlands Age: 40 Posts: 5,888	Yeah. I really need to think this over.. What would you do Groj? I don't really know if the MX 420 is good enough. I mean: I want to play NWN at full, you know __________________ Rowing is not a sport, it's a way of life Goal: Beijing 2008

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09-18-2002, 06:09 AM	#2
skywalker Banned User Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: VT, USA Age: 64 Posts: 3,097	As has been said in other threads of this type lately...lose the MX video card. If you intend to play any new games on it, that card will be the bottle neck and slow you down. Try to see if they will swap it with a Geforce4 4200,4400 or 4600. Mark [edit] BTW the cards I listed have 128MB of ram on them, which is not bad to have. [ 09-18-2002, 06:11 AM: Message edited by: skywalker ]

09-18-2002, 06:14 AM	#4
Link Jack Burton Join Date: May 15, 2001 Location: The Netherlands Age: 40 Posts: 5,888	Hmm.. The salesman told me it was just a Geforce 4.. What's the difference between the MX then?

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