Could has Nostradamus seen our preset?

[Shaide]

Look this century please:
Century X, 66
Le chef de Londres par regne l'Americh,
L'Isle d'Escosse tempiera par gelee:
Roy Reb auront vn si faux Antechrist,
Que les mettra trestous dans la meslee

in english is:

The chief of London through the realm of America,
The Isle of Scotland will be tried by frost:
King "Reb" will has got an Antichrist so false,
That he will place them in the conflit all together.

Think about it. In the Nostradamus ages, L'Americh was called as "Las indias", and more late "Las Españas", America was called America more late, and he could hadnt heard it.
However "The chief of London through the realm of America", do you understand it?... he was talked about United States and British together. "King Reb will has got an antichrist so false that he will place them in the conflict all together."... Now the people calls to Bin Laden like the Antichrist, and Bin Laden worked for the CIA in the past, then the king Reb could be Bush, could be Beard?... in français the words Reb and beard sounds in the same way.
Could be this poem talking about the presents?

Read it too:
Century 1, 3
Quand la lictiere du tourbillon versee,
Et seront faces de leurs manteaux couuers,
La republique par gens nouveaux vexee,
Lors blancs & rouges [iureront][jugeront] à l'enuers.

in english is:


When the litters (are) overturned by the whirlwind,
And faces are covered by their cloaks,
The republic will be troubled by new people,
At this time the whites and the reds will rule wrongly.


Republic, he was talked about french. When the litters overturned by the whirlwind, the whirlwind is the war, and faces are covered by their cloaks... well, this phrase mean a war in the north or in a desert. And who are whites and reds?... Could be United State? or Austria?... I think United State.
Well Usa will attack to Iraq, but La France wont help them, could be that Usa will lose this war, and the united state people will say that french are a traitors.

sound it too:
Century 1,4

Par l'vnivers sera faict vn monarque,
Qu'en paix & vie ne sera longuement:
Lors se perdra la piscature barque,
Sera regie en plus grand detriment.

in english

In the universe (there) will be made a king,
Who will have little peace and a short life:
At this time the ship of the Papacy will be lost,
Governed to its greatest detriment.


Its the poem that you can get the mean... Who is the "king" from whom Nostradamus was talking?...
Since administration's Bush get the power in USA, they have a little time in peace. I think that usa will attack to Iraq and they will lose...
I dont continue because Nostradamus wrote a lot of poems and they talked about the III world war, in the mediterranean sea and in Europe. They talk about a King of Persia waked up by the eagle, and they will attack Turkish and greek and more late they will attack Italy (with a Nuclear bomb) and Gibraltar and the port of Pola, Hungry, France and Polonia
Century 9, 30

Au port de Puola & de sainct Nicolas,
Perir Normande au goufre Phanatique,
Cap de Bisance rues crier helas,
Secours de Gaddes & du grand Philippique.


english

At the port of Pola and of San Nicolo,
A Normand will punish in the Gulf of Quarnero:
Capet to cry alas in the streets of Byzantium,
Help from Cadiz and the great Philip.

Do you know where is Gribaltar and the Naval port of United States in Spain?...
yes in Cadiz, in the port of Pola... how the hell Nostradamus knew it? Gibraltar are British since 18th century, and Naval port of Rota of United States from 20th century. Normand are the North people, and Phanatique in spanish is the fanatic. Do you know who are Philip?... our prince, the chief and general of our naval force who will help them from Cadiz near Gibraltar and Rota... Byzantium in the Nostradamus' ages was muslim like in the present.
Then the muslims will attack British and United States points in the Mediterranean sea, when they will make crazy the muslims lands, with this stupid attack.
Meanwhile the united states will stay in peace in their lands.


I'm skecipt but Nostradamus wrote Franco, Ribera, Hitler, Mussolini, the Ducce... moreover he wrote that Spain will has a good king marry with a Greek Lady, actually our king is the more good king that we ever have, and he is married with our Queen who is from Greece.

Shaide

[johnny]

According to Nostradamus the world as we know it, would't even exist as we speak. And look..... we're still here. The man defenitely lost some credit from my side.

[Grojlach]

You don't even want to know how many of the so called Nostradamus predictions used in present day occasions are fake. They popped up like mushrooms just after the 9/11 attacks, and they're still popping up like mushrooms.
As for most of Nostradamus' predictions, they're often open to a lot of interpretation; you could apply it to many other cases just the same.

[ 01-29-2003, 05:52 AM: Message edited by: Grojlach ]

[Shaide]

Hey Grojlach, Nostradamus hasnt any poems about 9/11, the people is so stupid. Nostradamus wrote about it, saying that the stupids must keep far of him poems. Since 9/11 stupids persons wrote about him.
Moreover Nostradamus was a extraordinary medico, and he was intelligent... why did he wrote about the future if he was intelligent? because he saw it (he wrote names, and dates), and in his son's letter he gave a lot of dates. The stupid person without intelligent make some prediction for feel more importants, but they still are stupids, else they wont say anything.
Could be I fell dumb?... just a kidding

Shaide

[Timber Loftis]

Interesting post. I'm a skeptic but I still like Nostradamus stuff.

The one with the Papacy: I would view this more as what is in store after the Pope dies that I would as any sort of USA reference.

[Wutang]

From what I understand, Nostrodamus wrote a lot of ambiguious statements that could be interpretated in a hundred different ways depending on the circumstances.

Much like the Bible

I wouldn't put too much validity in his writings

[Grojlach]

Originally posted by Shaide: Hey Grojlach, Nostradamus hasnt any poems about 9/11, the people is so stupid. Nostradamus wrote about it, saying that the stupids must keep far of him poems. Since 9/11 stupids persons wrote about him.

Well, what I meant is that many of the Nostradamus predictions that were supposed to predict 9/11 turned out to be fake; as well as a few nasty "predictions" to make fun of poor Dubya.
For those wondering, Here you can find more info on those fake 9/11 predictions, and here is one in which Dubya's election was "predicted".

[Ronn_Bman]

Who did Nostradamus ID as the 3rd anti-Christ?

Arafat? Saddam? Osama? Dubya?

Here's an interesting article from a guy who writes books about Nostradamus' predictions.

I don't believe in this stuff, but it's interesting reading.

That's how I started this thread in General Discussions last month.

If you remove the consonants, switch the vowels, hold your breath, and close one eye you can easily see who Nostradamus named...lol.