I Think The War Forum Has.......

skywalker · 10-28-2001, 04:47 PM

..lost it's edge. Since the cyber-spanking we all got, not many posts or threads are coming our way here. It just doesn't cut it anymore. You think?

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Ronn_Bman · 10-28-2001, 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by skywalker:
..lost it's edge. Since the cyber-spanking we all got, not may posts or threads are coming our way here. It just doesn't cut it anymore. You think?

It has slowed some, but it's still a very interesting forum. I actually appreciate the slow down because I was having a hard time responding to everything before

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10-28-2001, 05:10 PM

I agree with you, Mark. I think the forum itself wasn't a bad idea but they way things have turned out.... I spend very little time on it as it stands, and I don't think it's really working out anymore.

Ronn_Bman · 10-28-2001, 05:26 PM

The real key is to keep tempers down while discussing highly emotional issues. I think the request for people calming down resulted in people just leaving the forum. It wasn't that the opinions weren't welcome, it was that there was too much anger.

Early on, I found myself getting very angry at things I read, but now I just want to share my point of view. Now that the new is gone, the anger is to, at least for me.

It maybe time to merge this forum into something larger, like a "World Views" forum allowing for serious discussion on a wide range of topics. The war on terrorism certainly isn't the only thing going on in the world, it's just the most prominent. A "World Views" forum could allow discussions on issues completely unrelated to terrorism.

I believe there is a need for a serious issues forum at IW like this one, so GD can remain a place of fun and frolic.

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skywalker · 10-28-2001, 05:31 PM

Funny it is a forum about War. Tempers flare...that's what war is all about! No one should really take the flare ups too personally. But I guess that's just being human!

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Ronn_Bman · 10-28-2001, 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by skywalker:
Funny it is a forum about War. Tempers flare...that's what war is all about! No one should really take the flare ups too personally. But I guess that's just being human!

Thats a good point

And all the more reason to keep this type issue in a separate forum.

I have found that, since I stopped getting (so) angry, I'm able to present my point of view much better. The people reading it may not think so

, but I, personally, feel that now I say what I intended and explain my thinking more clearly.

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skywalker · 10-28-2001, 05:45 PM

I really believe that the average person simply wants everyone else to understand and agree with their view! We all want our thoughts to be accepted and respected. Sometimes it feels like if someone opposes your idea and ideals, they don't like you. That's where I think most of the anger comes in to play. It is very hard to be objective when the subject carries lots of passion. One thing I did notice was if the mods let it go long enough, we eventually doused the fires ourselves. This particular forum can never be a part of the happy family of forums. It has to be separate to be successful. A happy and considerate War Forum is an oxymoron and I'm just the moron to point it out!

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Mark

Ronn_Bman · 10-28-2001, 05:53 PM

Another reason I think you see a slow down in here is because many aspects of this conflict have been covered already. When something like this is new, people want to talk about every single detail, now they're not as interested in debating every point. Combine this with the hostility factor...

We've hardly covered every issue here, but a quick look back at the archives will show that all the major points have been "hit" and discussed at length.

You are completely right about people wanting their opinion validated!
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Fljotsdale · 10-28-2001, 06:59 PM

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Originally posted by Ronn_Bman:
Thats a good point And all the more reason to keep this type issue in a seperate forum.

I have found that, since I stopped getting (so) angry, I'm able to present my point of view much better. The people reading it may not think so , but I, personally, feel that now I say what I intended and explain my thinking more clearly.

You have 'improved' a lot, lol!

I agree - it shouldn't just be a war forum. A Serious Discussions forum, maybe?

I think some of the most thoughtful posters have left because they hated the anger - and of course we don't have Diogenes, who has a talent for raising though-provoking issues. (I hope Ziroc cools down and lets him back in soon).

People have become nervous of expressing their opinions, too, in case someone takes offence.
It can be difficult, sometimes, to realise you have said something in an insulting way - (I have been accused of being insulting myself, on a number of occasions, without having had a clue that I was being insulting) - so people are nervous of posting in here in case they are chucked off the board for something they didn't know they'd done....

I think it is a pity. There is nothing at all wrong with a strong and vigorous debate, so long as we are good-mannered about it. *sigh* Oh, well...

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10-29-2001, 12:43 AM

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Originally posted by skywalker:
..lost it's edge. Since the cyber-spanking we all got, not many posts or threads are coming our way here. It just doesn't cut it anymore. You think?

If that is what 'edge' was, then I'm glad it's gone.

I think this forum is doing just fine now.

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10-28-2001, 04:47 PM	#1
skywalker Banned User Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: VT, USA Age: 64 Posts: 3,097	..lost it's edge. Since the cyber-spanking we all got, not many posts or threads are coming our way here. It just doesn't cut it anymore. You think? ------------------ Still The Most Humbly Prideful (?) Member Of The Illuminati! Mark [This message has been edited by skywalker (edited 10-28-2001).]

10-28-2001, 05:10 PM	#3
Sorcerer Alex Guest Posts: n/a	I agree with you, Mark. I think the forum itself wasn't a bad idea but they way things have turned out.... I spend very little time on it as it stands, and I don't think it's really working out anymore.

10-28-2001, 05:26 PM	#4
Ronn_Bman Zartan Join Date: March 11, 2001 Location: North Carolina USA Age: 58 Posts: 5,177	The real key is to keep tempers down while discussing highly emotional issues. I think the request for people calming down resulted in people just leaving the forum. It wasn't that the opinions weren't welcome, it was that there was too much anger. Early on, I found myself getting very angry at things I read, but now I just want to share my point of view. Now that the new is gone, the anger is to, at least for me. It maybe time to merge this forum into something larger, like a "World Views" forum allowing for serious discussion on a wide range of topics. The war on terrorism certainly isn't the only thing going on in the world, it's just the most prominent. A "World Views" forum could allow discussions on issues completely unrelated to terrorism. I believe there is a need for a serious issues forum at IW like this one, so GD can remain a place of fun and frolic. ------------------ "Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins." [This message has been edited by Ronn_Bman (edited 10-28-2001).]

10-28-2001, 05:31 PM	#5
skywalker Banned User Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: VT, USA Age: 64 Posts: 3,097	Funny it is a forum about War. Tempers flare...that's what war is all about! No one should really take the flare ups too personally. But I guess that's just being human! ------------------ Still The Most Humbly Prideful (?) Member Of The Illuminati! Mark

10-28-2001, 05:45 PM	#7
skywalker Banned User Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: VT, USA Age: 64 Posts: 3,097	I really believe that the average person simply wants everyone else to understand and agree with their view! We all want our thoughts to be accepted and respected. Sometimes it feels like if someone opposes your idea and ideals, they don't like you. That's where I think most of the anger comes in to play. It is very hard to be objective when the subject carries lots of passion. One thing I did notice was if the mods let it go long enough, we eventually doused the fires ourselves. This particular forum can never be a part of the happy family of forums. It has to be separate to be successful. A happy and considerate War Forum is an oxymoron and I'm just the moron to point it out! ------------------ Still The Most Humbly Prideful (?) Member Of The Illuminati! Mark

10-28-2001, 05:53 PM	#8
Ronn_Bman Zartan Join Date: March 11, 2001 Location: North Carolina USA Age: 58 Posts: 5,177	Another reason I think you see a slow down in here is because many aspects of this conflict have been covered already. When something like this is new, people want to talk about every single detail, now they're not as interested in debating every point. Combine this with the hostility factor... We've hardly covered every issue here, but a quick look back at the archives will show that all the major points have been "hit" and discussed at length. You are completely right about people wanting their opinion validated! ------------------ "Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins." [This message has been edited by Ronn_Bman (edited 10-28-2001).]

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